i was just wondering if it is at all possible to swap a 7A-FE engine for a 3S-GTE engine? whats woul dbe the best way to upgrade a 7A-FE engine?

this topic has been covered. have you tried the search function?

3SGTE...is that some sort of futuristic space shuttle?

-hurley97+Mar 23, 2004 - 7:26 PM

-kuya1284+Mar 24, 2004 - 1:18 AM

-Supersprynt+Mar 24, 2004 - 11:20 AM

-RedSunCelica+Mar 24, 2004 - 6:54 PM

ya'll people are wrong.. funny none the less but still wrong..lol...

give the guy a break.. you can tell he is new at this..and he might be new to computers also..


let not turn into on of those honda boards.. >>

-macavely+Mar 25, 2004 - 1:29 AM

-kuya1284+Mar 25, 2004 - 4:31 AM

I dont think there are THAT many reposts that the entire forum is dependant upon them.

Then again nobody really talks about what their doing or anything real ground breaking because its all hush hush.

-Supersprynt+Mar 25, 2004 - 11:28 AM

he should be able to help himself, and ask a more specific question once he used the search feature.

in short, yes u can go from a 7a to a 3s.

-zipstrips+Mar 26, 2004 - 1:18 AM

Why isn't it worth it.
here is how to go from 7a to 3s

www.geocities.com/zegoat2000/HOMEPAGE.html

-celica3sgte+Mar 26, 2004 - 1:42 AM

damnit ray, fix up your car and submit to some magazines or somethin. its way too beautiful (and potent) to be kept under covers.

the reason i say it isn't worth it..... the 4a-gze will drop right into the stock motor mounts with a 7a-fe.... and if need be, you can even use the same c52 tranny (good up to about 200hp)..... but the ae101/late ae92 e51 tranny with lsd would suffice

now... for the price..... a 3s-gte (if you pick up a low mileage one) costs more for just the motor than i've seen for several map based 4agze HALF CUTS... which is everything you could need plus more (and when you get the body panels, just re-sell them and make some of the money back). Plus you don't have any worry of custom parts.

now yes... the 3s-gte is much more potent and a much stronger engine. but with that, it is heavier, and with more power (and just FWD) you're going to have a lot of wheel hop (unless you're driving on slicks all day) whenever you try to accelerate quickly. And with the light weight of these cars, it doesn't take much to get them going.

plus the gze is just about as versatile as the 3s-gte is for upgrades.... there are even several twincharged ones out there.....

so, IMO a 3s-gte from a 7a-fe isn't worth it....

-toyotaspeed_90+Mar 26, 2004 - 10:58 AM

-gh0st_d0g+Mar 26, 2004 - 9:43 AM

lol.... 1/2 cuts aren't that cheap everywhere else..... i can understand that in cali they're cheap..... but they're a bit more here (or adding on extra shipping from california doesn't help either).

i guess mainly my thing is i really don't care about 1/4 mile.... and i've built my car for lightweight and non peaky n/a power all for auto-x and road course.... which it's great for. And after i did my 4a-ge swap (using a 4a-fe ecu & wiring harness, with a tuned ecu) and it was so simple (done in 5 1/2 days) compared to a more custom job (ie silvertop 20V... like coomers which took a SHOP 6 months)..... kinda makes you wanna help others in the simplest way possible.....

like i said... it's all my opinion....

-toyotaspeed_90+Mar 26, 2004 - 2:24 PM

well.... a gze can put out quite a bit more than 200 or 250hp..... and even if you turbo it it's quite potent...... a simple pulley swap will put the latermodel gze around 200hp..... and that's simple!

i shouldn't even be the one talking about this... i'm all about keeping it n/a & running a map sensored 4a-ge with plans of ITB's, lol