lagos

#1

to anyone who has done a 3sgte swap into a 6th gen...


how bad is that lack of traction now that you are making much more power? do you ever wish that you had just bought an awd/turbo car insted of doing the swap?

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kuya1284

#2

-lagos+Mar 29, 2004 - 5:36 PM

Supersprynt

#3

I havent driven her with full power, i had a lil issue with not being able to go over 4K RPMs, so it was being forced into easing in the gears. I'll find out in about a month how bad it is.

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winchi

#4

my question may relate to this topic~~
if I had done the swap, do I have to change a better suspension and stronger brake system??

Supersprynt

#5

suspension isnt needed but i'd def. recommend a nice pair of pads and some slotted/drilled rotors.

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3FingersCelica

#6

-Supersprynt+Mar 30, 2004 - 1:44 AM

abatardi

#7

Traction is an issue but the car is still daily driveable. You can still launch soft and sometimes you might chirp the tires or something but nothing bad after you get used to it. Of course this is very light throttle. I don't go full throttle in first (ever) or the tires just break loose, no matter where in the powerband I get on it. 2nd can be a problem as well, especially on a downshift hitting it hard or sometimes not paying attention. One day I got pissed at a driver stopped in the middle of the road with no blinker, horn is disconnected so I revved at him... not thinking, I popped the clutch back out afterwards and almost put it into a parked car when the steering wheel jumped from torque steer (no LSD).

Wet roads on uphill gradients can be a bit tricky as well.

- aba

kuya1284

#8

-winchi+Mar 29, 2004 - 6:36 PM

kuya1284

#9

-abatardi+Mar 30, 2004 - 12:22 AM

ToYCeLi8

#10

-kuya1284+Mar 29, 2004 - 6:06 PM

kuya1284

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-ToYCeLi8+Mar 30, 2004 - 3:18 AM

ToYCeLi8

#12

-kuya1284+Mar 30, 2004 - 3:27 AM

lagos

#13

i think im starting to get a better understanding of what the celica is like with a 3sgte.

now on to the 2nd part of my question. if you had to do it all over again, would you have swapped or just bought an awd+turbo car with the same hp?
the reason why im asking this is that i have plans to swap this summer, but i want to make sure that if i do this, then i will be 100% satisfied with spending all that money on my car. i dont want to go ahead a just do it, and later wish that i had bought something like a WRX, GSX or 5th gen Alltrac, to satisfy my power needs.

i know we are all in love with the celica, but im just trying to look at this from all sides and not let my emotions rule my decision.

This post has been edited by lagos: Mar 30, 2004 - 10:42 AM

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kuya1284

#14

-lagos+Mar 30, 2004 - 8:40 AM

uzthedentist

#15

dont get a scoobypoo(subaru!) they are the mortal enemy of the gt4!

i dont know how the st/gt celica brakes work but the gt4 brakes r the most overengineered brakes ive seen, u dont really need any more than 2 pots (the gt4 has 4) and if used as a daily driver some decent slotted brakes on 1pots should be ok

ps wats a DSM?

This post has been edited by uzthedentist: Mar 30, 2004 - 12:49 PM

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lagos

#16

-uzthedentist+Mar 30, 2004 - 10:46 AM

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abatardi

#17

-uzthedentist+Mar 30, 2004 - 10:46 AM

abatardi

#18

-kuya1284+Mar 30, 2004 - 3:05 AM

Jabberwock

#19

I was wondering, would bigger rims with thicker profile tires improve some traction? Since more power needs to be put in the wheels which would allow the wheels to have less spin and traction loss?

Just a thought...

Or is there some way to make a LSD work better for acceleration since LSD's are moreoverly made for traction in turns.

BigEdge169

#20

I know its a little off subjuct from the traction stuff, but as long as the swappers are reading this I've got a question. Did any of you get the AC to work with the 3sgte swap or do you know of anyone that has? I've heard rumors that nobody has...that could just be hersey though.

abatardi

#21

-Jabberwock+Mar 30, 2004 - 9:57 PM

abatardi

#22

-BigEdge169+Mar 30, 2004 - 10:31 PM

BigEdge169

#23

-abatardi+Mar 31, 2004 - 2:06 AM

kuya1284

#24

-BigEdge169+Mar 30, 2004 - 10:31 PM

abatardi

#25

-BigEdge169+Mar 31, 2004 - 8:12 AM

Digndoug

#26

hey kuya what kinda cars have you beating?? like only civics, or z28 camaros an mustangs??

Dr_Tweak

#27

Anyone know if the Corolla GTZ tranny with LSD will fit into the Celica? What about any of the other Corolla trannys? (Black 6-speed, etc)

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kuya1284

#28

-Digndoug+Mar 31, 2004 - 10:22 AM

Chrobis

#29

as for the a/c question, since there have only been 2 answers from st205 3s-gte swappers, I'll take the st185 swap a/c part. My swap is not totaly done yet, but Mike (qatar) had to do some extra wiring, and stuff. But the mechanical part, you would probably need a gt for it to work, otherwise the ST a/c prolly wont work. But i'll let everyone know about the a/c when the car is finally running >>

BigEdge169

#30

Thanks for all the info on the A/C stuff. There's no way in hell I'll have a car in Texas with no A/C, that's just miserable.