See topic ; celica 7agte started last week .

I have heard you have to re-locate the Alternator for a 4ag. Is that true?

-FallenHero+Oct 28, 2004 - 1:53 AM

yea, just throwing this out there, those cam gears from HKS he has cost a bleading fortune.

Hey Kwanza. I am Probably going to end up doing this in one form or fashion and using it as my DD when i get out of school. I'm probably going to use 256 duration cams so my car will still idle properly. Do you think I should go with more if I do ITB's? And I am going to use the big port head.

Also, HKS' cams are most likely the best, and highest quality, but web cams make some that are $330 for BOTH, not $270 someting each. What are your thoughts?

I have now a wiring, ecu, igniter, coil pack, crank angle sensor from an ae92 jdm 4agze map dli; this is my next challenge/update for this winter. No more "us" ecu and *&?%$/! afm ! I read and look for the autronic stand alone management ; it's very complete and high quality but not really worth the cost for an 220-260 hp engine ... We will see !

Claude

-frotou+Oct 28, 2004 - 9:38 AM

-FallenHero+Oct 28, 2004 - 3:00 PM

I'll be flat out honest with you. I'm going to call jet and tell them what I am going to run, and see if they can get a roundabout ecu set up for me. that way, I don't have to change any wiring, and it'll be plug and play. (plus I can fine tune with the AFC in that manner) And I also was under the impression that if I used the ITB's, the port size really wouldn't be that major of a problem. After all, the intake will be controlled by the ITB's. I wouldn't think the flow characteristics would really hurt power. I figured there would be a torque loss, but not that major of one.

IF the 272 cams are running well for you, I might just go that route. What did they run you? Also, what are you thinking for a redline. I was thinking 6500-6800. Probably 6500 because the block will have 120k miles on it. that coupled with a .7 or .5mm metal head gasket could lead to compression worries.

I figure all that would Easily topple the 130 hp mark. Throw on a few basics (header, exhast work, UDP) and it could make considerably more power. In the end. I'd like to see how it would run agains a stock 7afe turbocharged. Were i to rebuild the block properly, I think the all motor 7a with a bit more compression and the above head work would easily take a 7afte. But price wise... I will probably end up spending more money.

However, when I set out on this I said it would be a reliable DD, not a weekend race car. I just want a little more under my right foot. Plus, it's going to be a fun little project.

-FallenHero+Oct 28, 2004 - 7:35 PM

Use AEM cam gears. You'll pay for them, but you can get a variety of colors. That's fairly cheap for cams, and probably the way I will go. And yea, I have heard about the 2zz rods, pistons, and even crank being very close to a 7a fit. A bit out of my price range for now though.

I see what you mean about Velocity. It never crossed my mind That explains the tivis 'increasing velocity'... I have large port parts available to me. I don't know where I would look to find a small port head and intake. they cane in the late rollas before they started using the 7a right?

wow thats a damm hott ride for sure...that manifold looks crazy...
the paint is all crazy too

you should get a custom guage set from doggy...a nice yellow one

well i know who to talk to when i take the plung into the 7agte world. But for now i'm exploring the limits of the 7afte

-FallenHero+Oct 28, 2004 - 8:22 PM

My engine finished (expect the management) I love the sound >> ;



Now I can't wait for the spring ...winter will be long for me >>

Claude

wow. you are the f*ckin man. looks great!! u should post some sound clips or something. wow...

-dstrb

-Kwanza26+Oct 28, 2004 - 1:49 PM

-FallenHero+Oct 29, 2004 - 12:51 AM

check a price for the smallport head for me with the manifold and crank gear. >>

-FallenHero+Oct 30, 2004 - 1:49 AM

I would seriously recommend getting a Megasqurt setup. You are going to need programmable engine management anyway because of the turbo, and since you don't have a wiring harness this is a perfect opportunity.

If contact the guy a www.4AGTE.com or .net he can help you out, and I know some other people as well. Too bad you don't live close otherwise I could hook you up.

Dude that is ****ing awesome... mad props.