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Topic #11954 44 posts Started by spunky393
Do we, as in GT owners, manual's of course, have a chance against the Ford Probe GT and the 92+ predlude vtec 2.2? Any body with experience?

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prelude we don't have a chance stock. Probe, i'm not sure
Is it because we have the same sized engine, and they have the variable valve timing? I'm guessing that's correct.

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
-spunky393+Apr 29, 2004 - 4:20 PM

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probe gt has turbo.

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-Drocay+Apr 29, 2004 - 5:15 PM
-Drocay+Apr 29, 2004 - 7:15 PM

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
You should walk the 92 Probe. I think that those ones only have around 145hp witch is not very much for the weight of those, they are heavy. And with the Prelude, my ex girlfriend has one, and when my buddy raced me in hers (he used to have one) he beat me by about a car length. Keep in mind that hers was completely stock and I had intake, exhaust, clutch. She also has a 5spd so I don't know if the prelude that your talking about is an auto. If it is if will be very close.

This post has been edited by 94Toy: Apr 29, 2004 - 8:05 PM
I wasn't talking specific, just very curious because i read a review someone made on a 95 celica gt. Saying that we have a lot less power than a probe gt and vtec prelude. what a lot of people just don't understand is we have 4:11 FINAL GEARS. I have a friend with a 5 spd. After i get my headers and cold air done (which will be on sale, check out my "headers anybody?" post) i'll get a drag on with him, and i'll get back to ya all (probably end of summer. hahaha). Thanks Toy.

He has a 5 spd prelude i meant.

This post has been edited by spunky393: Apr 29, 2004 - 8:10 PM


The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
92 and older gts have a turbo, and ALOT more torque than we do. and the 93 and up gts have a 164 horse v6 thats pulls almost all the way to its 7k redline. my dads got a 97 and it will kick my ass.
-spunky393+Apr 29, 2004 - 5:57 PM
Yes, i see that now, thanks bike.

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
Turbo'd probes are quick. The stock ones, ya know? I saw one about 2 days ago, not too bad

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theres one in my town with some hubcap spinnaz on it.... dont know if its a GT or not....
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lol, what an ugly car. as they say ****ed On Race Day.

This post has been edited by Jdog1385: Apr 30, 2004 - 10:26 PM
-spunky393+Apr 30, 2004 - 1:09 AM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
the heck the final drive doesn't matter.

our final drive is for quickness, it uses the small power the engine puts out to every extent it can.

And if you're talking about experience from that ST, little bit of a difference, correct?

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
against a GT.... seeing how i've heard a 20V st can beat a GT... and my car can keep up with coomers.... and i have a problem against my roommates 94 mx6 (same as the probe gt)... then i'd say the probe will beat you.... unfortunately
That probe is the ugliest thing i've ever seen in my life, ever.
Evey week someone comes up with a new car to be battled with the Celica....................why? These cars are NOT built to perform with out serious cash/mods. Quit trying to fool yourselfs, your car can and WILL be owned by a good percentage of other cars out there including trucks and SUV's.

Accept It.
5sfe, why do you only post on this site to bash our own cars? I'm just wondering, because those seem to be the only posts I've seen out of you
-5sfeTurbo+May 1, 2004 - 1:42 PM

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
-spunky393+May 1, 2004 - 5:01 AM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
The 4:11 transmissions are hard to find in any street car. s2000's have the final drive, but they also have a kick butt hp range. I don't know what you're talkwing about with that ST. No one around here really drives anything like a corolla GT-S. I drive my celica, and i drive (when allowed) my father's 69 427 chevy. Two very different cars. I know a lot more than you would think, i learned from what a lot of people would consider the best. And i learned from the diagrams and hands-on experience. I just believe the celica has a lot more potential than you do, and that's not wrong for either of us, so we should leave it at that.

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
-spunky393+May 1, 2004 - 10:23 PM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
Well, i don't want to get on a bad side of you, or vise versa. I apologize if what i was saying came off wrong. Sometimes i just get finger happy, ya know, whatever runs through your head hits the screen, hahaha. I wasn't comparing with S2000, the 4:11 final is probably the only thing they have in common, hahah, oh yeah, they both come in manual if you want it, haha. I guess what i'm trying to say and do is, because i'm so used to workign and tuning the great domestic chevy's, i want to be able to take that freedom with the chevy V8 (the freedom to turn one screw and change the whole feel of the engine) and apply that with work and effort to a car with great potential like the 6GC. Apologize for any disrespect.

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
-spunky393+May 1, 2004 - 10:55 PM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
he he, this thread would have never happened if toyota made a god business decision and released the 4 in the US lol

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The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
I don't know about the US spec Probe and Prelude but the UK versions of these cars are beaten on both performance and looks by the UK Spec Celica GT & GT4.

Car Type | BHP | MPH | 0-60 | Comments
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Probe 2.0 | 113 | 127 | 10.6 | Couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
Probe 2.5 | 160 | 137 | 7.9 | Lookout, here comes Grandad.

Prelude 2.0 | 132 | 125 | 8.9 | It's ugly and it's a Honda.
Prelude 2.2 | 183 | 142 | 6.9 | It's still ugly and it's still a Honda.

Celica GTi | 177 | 137 | 7.1 | Looks fantastic and has the 3SGE - one of the best 16v engines ever.
Celica GT4 | 245 | 152 | 6.1 | 3SGTE, nuff said.
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