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Topic #13234 28 posts Started by celicaracer18
celicaracer18
#1
does any body have pics of how they mounted a FMIC

and where is a good place to get one w/out paying $1000(links please)

whats the best size, i am thinking around the 600-700 hp range(i know this is high, but i don't want to have to buy one twice, i want to get a good one now while i have the $ so i won't have to get a bigger one someday when this is no longer my daily driver)
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forkee
#2
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Four
#3
look at profile for pics, but i mounted it to the front impact/supprt bar. just welded the top of the cooler to the bottom of the bar.
jontechie
#5
The front mount intercooler does look good but someone argued that it introduces
more lag in the response because of the longer induction to throttle body path
the air travels. On our cars the examples I've seen always seem to have the pipework running over the exhaust manifold which defeats the purpose of cooling the air to begin with.
Supersprynt
#7
I say St205 watercharged IC...best way to go.

The A2A is horrible, i'm upset with mine and plan on going ST205 but its quite an effort locating everything.
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jontechie
#8
If you go for the ST205 Intercooler route make sure you heat lag the underside
of the IC with Aluminium coated heat resist fibreglass wadding' it will help prevent
heat soak when the cars not moving. My IC would get so hot if the car was stationary for a few minutes, you could fry en egg on it. Toyota's standard
heat shield is pretty pathetic. Wadding available from Demon Tweeks :

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shid
#9
-jontechie+Jun 8, 2004 - 4:19 PM
celicaracer18
#11
-sphinx+Jun 8, 2004 - 3:29 PM
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Jabberwock
#12
I would go custom W/A IC or go with the Large FMIC and Spray it with N20 it may help from the lag.

But custom W/A is your best bet.
XSTeknique
#13
It seems like common sense, but you'd be surprised how many Celica owners run the piping over the exhaust manifold because it's easier. Might as well not have done the A2A anyway.
shid
#14
XST, see my post
celicaracer18
#15
i think i am going to run it somewhat like the pic shid posted
and i am going to the N-tercooler kit from nx and probably spray co2 because it way cheapper, and if i need a little extra, i'll get some nitrous instead.
i am probably ordering the hybrid one, i have been talking to flyin today and he sai they still have them in stock ready to ship and shipping is approx $130 aud

how much would that be all together in usd exactly, i used to have a currency converter on my laptop someplace, but can't seem to find it
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Four
#17
technically there is more lag witha fmic set up. but i have never noticed any, and i argee with trance4 at celica.net who said its seems like the turbo spools up quicker witha fmic set up.

also the pic of the 5sfte set up is the way you want to do ur fmic pipes. when u go over the exhuast manifold with the pipe that goes into your throttle body thats kind of an oxymoron.
x_itchy_b_x
#18
i had a jimmy rig heat sheild on the exhaust manifold. but i took it off looked horrible, anybody have a 3sgte one around?
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uzthedentist
#19
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Drocay
#20
and the hotness comes out.
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jontechie
#21
-uzthedentist+Jun 10, 2004 - 1:52 PM
celicaracer18
#22
i would still like to have some pics of how people mounted their IC
i don't want to welt and if i doo it will be on the back side

also i was looking at some mags and saw sme installs on other cars and they didn't put the bumper thing(peice of metal that conects the frame behind the front bumper

also doesn't the bumper attatch to the metals thing i was talking about that people are welding the IC to, do you have to cut the bumper
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FallenHero
#23
dude, mounting an intercooler would be NO sweat. Don't worry about it.
celicaracer18
#24
ok here is the thing the int. i am looking at is 300mm tall which is like 11.8 in, will it stick out the bottom of bumper if it is welded to the bottom of the that bar
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Uppitycracker
#25
As far as increased turbo lag with a fmic setup I dont think that should be the case. Aslong as the piping interior is the same volume in both instances the difference in spool should be trivial. Thats just out of my understanding of physics not experience.

So if you go with a fmic the piping should be smaller in diameter then if it where top mount, but not too much smaller or it'll bottle neck.

This post has been edited by Uppitycracker: Jun 14, 2004 - 8:13 PM

KAMiX
#26
^^ Iunno about that. I agree that flow is proportionate to volume, but when you are talking an extra 1-2m of piping I don't think it'd work to run a pipe that thin. The theory is right but there's probably a cut off size as you said.

Also shid you are right to an extent with the piping over the manifold, but an exhaust manifold gets extrememly hot, and they are pretty big so there will be a decent amount of heat radiaton. Any piping running across it is going to pick up a lot of heat. Adding say 10-15 degrees C of heat to the air temp before it hits the IC might only give you 5-8 degrees up in the throttle body (total guesstimate), but that still isn't going for the most eficient setup.. we all know that intake temps make big changes to A/F ratios and timing...
Uppitycracker
#28
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This post has been edited by Uppitycracker: Jun 15, 2004 - 4:24 PM
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