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Topic #15226 86 posts Started by doGGy
doGGy
#1
well, my best friend bought RSX-S (preveusly he drove Civic SiR b16A). So now we got in a talk who would win - my Celica with Turbo kit or RSX-S?? What do you think guys... Im planing to run about 160-180 hp with my Celi. His RSX MAY BE still stock, maybe some basic mods (CAI, Exhaust and etc)...

So, i was just thinking, maybe i should ask you turbo guys who raced the Trex, maybe you will give some sugestions...

Thanks..


P.S. Race will be on 1/4 mile road.

This post has been edited by doGGy: Aug 12, 2004 - 7:24 AM

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Supersprynt
#2
Thats a huge increase for the ST engine, dyno it and post some sheets.

IMO he'll still win; especially off the line since he's got N/A while u gotta wait for the spool up, even if it is a couple seconds it still makes a difference.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Aug 12, 2004 - 7:41 AM

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doGGy
#3
-Supersprynt+Aug 12, 2004 - 5:40 AM
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macavely
#4
i think its going to be close.. doggy your 7afe is the same one we have here in the states... your vid clips have proven that... i would look to see that race have some one recored it...
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doGGy
#5
-macavely+Aug 12, 2004 - 6:27 AM
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Supersprynt
#6
Exactly "almost instant" whereas he has 200hp instantly. The JDM CT26 is nearly fully spooled at 3K so I know its pretty quick, the ceramic turbine helps.
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nik
#7
i think you can take him doggy
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
hyp3rk1d
#8
agreed.. I think ud take it
Coomer
#9
I think it'll be a close race. Is the RSX-S completely stock? Those things get pretty good gains from simple bolt-ons.
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BlackSTX
#10
-Supersprynt+Aug 12, 2004 - 7:04 AM
Coomer
#11
-BlackSTX+Aug 12, 2004 - 10:00 AM
Digndoug
#12
I know that wight isnt to much of in issue, but an rsx does have about 300 pounds.. with a very lil trq.. but hondas can still haul.. I would love to see the race though..
Kwanza26
#15
You'll get spanked... ;]

Now for a story... we have a K20A2 (RSX-S motor) powered 2003 Civic SI with bolt-ons (CAI, Header, exhaust) and Hondata K-Pro (they're actually better than Toda's ECU programs). Car has not been tracked yet... but I'll gurantee you... at least a mid 14 second car. He's gonna be making a lot of power on you... and then some. As for peak power... matters mostly for one gear (1st)... after that... honda trannies are geared short so they stay in their power-band. Torque also will be of little factor.

and nik: that post to the Toda website should solidify the reason why the RSX-S will win. It'll make nearly 200 horses to the wheels with bolt-ons, which Doggy says his friend will most likely have. Either way... a Turbo 7AFE at 8psi or so is only gonna make around 180 hp at the crank... which the RSX-s still has a large advantage over.
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Jeremy1210
#17
yeah the torque will help. The lack of torque that the rsx kinda evens out the lower HP that ddoggy has. I think it'll be really close
Coomer
#18
Have you guys ever driven an RSX-S? The lack of torque only really feels apparent in the lower part of first gear. From VTEC in first until you decide you're going fast enough, the car pulls pretty hard. >wink.gif>
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Kwanza26
#19
-Jeremy1210+Aug 13, 2004 - 1:23 AM
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Coomer
#20
You guys should read this. It's got some really good knowledge in there. >smile.gif>

Note the last paragraph:

"It's better to make torque at high rpm than at low rpm, because you can take advantage of gearing."
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Kwanza26
#21
-Coomer+Aug 13, 2004 - 1:41 AM
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doGGy
#22
well, that RSX mostly will be stock, (maybe somthing like CAI and exhaust MAYBE). Well.... We will see >smile.gif> Gonna video tape this race for sure, and if my ass gonna get haulted, then i will blow my motor for sure >smile.gif>)

By the way Kwanza....... Zipstrip...6 psi 160hp .... with stock injectors...

Myne setup includes way more then this >smile.gif>
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neoklis
#23
Doggy i have faith in you
doGGy
#24
-neoklis+Aug 12, 2004 - 11:23 PM
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97sccelica
#25
lol

i raced an RSX type S that was lightly modded

he cut me off as he was accelerating away while i was going 60mph

i slowed down cuz he almost hit me, so from 50mph to 115mph i caught up to him and passed him(passed him around 100mph) and believe me, he was trying. he looked over in awe as i passed him.

btw that was in my ST-T at 7.5psi
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hyp3rk1d
#26
There we go, I was just waiting to here a kill story from 97 >tongue.gif>
boosted_K2
#27
i think you may win because he will be unfamiliar with the car, but once he gets used to it i think the RSX-S would probably win
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nik
#28
OK thats it tonight i'm going to meet up with my friend matt he has 03 rsx type s w intake (injen) exhaust (ractive) for modds i'll get someone to video tape it.The little 7afte is going to battle tonight >mad.gif> >biggrin.gif> if i win or loose we will put some of this to rest

This post has been edited by nik: Aug 13, 2004 - 10:16 AM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Coomer
#29
-nik+Aug 13, 2004 - 8:14 AM
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nik
#30
7psi but i'm turning it up to 8 for the race
SORRY doggy i didnt mean to steal your thread just tired of people talking bad about the 1.8L ST

This post has been edited by nik: Aug 13, 2004 - 2:50 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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