i figured engines would be best place for this, i drove my brothers 97 saturn sc1 today and i floored it, (its an automatic) and when it got to the redline (5500) it kept on going to about 6k.... im puzzled i thoguht they were supposed stop at or before the redline, mine stops a few hundred rpm before. can anyone tell me if this is normal or not? thanks

Just hold the R1 button. It works in GT3

In our celis you can floor it until redline, then it will shift- in park tho, you can rev it past the red.

My guess is that Saturn's automatic tranny's 1) Aren't very good or 2) Saturn just painted the redline way early to be "safe" with their crappy engines.

Well, couple things. In my car at least, if I all out floor it (as hard down and as far as it will go) I rev to right around 5600 in "1st", 5400 in "2nd", and 5200 in "3rd". I haven't topped out "4th" in quite some time, and when I did I got a speeding ticket (104 in a 70...) so I really can't say what I hit there. But, if you REALLY want to get those extra RPMs out of your car, you can shift it, but I warn you, it's dangerous to your engine and your transmission. I've been able to run first up to 34mph, second through 62mph, and third right around 85mph while shifting, and the engine sound is AWESOME, but I really wouldn't recommend it for daily driving.

I forgot I was in 2nd once as well... lol... went past redline and hit fuel cut. When you're not in Overdrive, you can go past redline. It's an interesting experience.

-Brian

HAHAAHAHA Get a man. autos arnt for speed in the celi...

This post has been edited by Digndoug: Aug 12, 2004 - 1:04 PM

-Digndoug+Aug 12, 2004 - 6:04 PM

yeah when this happens it does it in 1st, 2nd, 3rd but i didnt try in 4th... its weird

but do u guys think it will hurt that engine?

Hurt the engine as taking it to redline.. No Thats why there is a red-line.. so it stops before you hurt the engine.. Its not really super good for it.. But theres NO-Reason to do it.. our power band dies after 5600 .. So take it to around 6 an then shift .. or as much as it will go with an auto.. My Bimmer was an auto, an had a button to switch modes to man sift it.. That raised the reline about 1k rpm.. an it was quicker.. but that Had a higher powerband..

You won't be able to redline 4th in an automatic. Sorry dude. In our cars the highest I got mine was like 4200-4400 RPMs, and that was going right around 115 on the speedo. Dunno about that Saturn, but AFAIK you cannot redline any automatic in its final gear.

-Brian

so it proberly isnt good when this saturn is driven past redline even tho the auto matic transmission allows it?

Probably not, but it probably also means that redline is just "painted" on

ahh thank you

Most supercars now days are automatics, and you can take them to redline in each gear, so there!! hahahahaha

gotta love the L 2 D... it does sound pretty pimp >>

a lot of automatic GM cars do that

put my friends 1994 trans am into performance mode(little button by auto tranny shifter) and it shifts at 6krpm. redline is 5600 or something like that.

puts it right in the peak torque for the next gear

-97sccelica+Aug 13, 2004 - 7:21 AM

my autp shifts before it hits redline. like around 5.3 in first...

My buddy's '96 Saturn SC2 does the same thing. He can hit 7k RPM if you just gas his auto. I was surprised that the little Saturn's twin cam 1.9L could rev that high.

-Digndoug+Aug 12, 2004 - 11:52 PM

I have shifted my celica since I got it...25k miles...tranny never has skipped a beat or anything. I can always put it back to drive if I want and it shifts justas smooth as it ever did. I then go to shifting and first gear redlines ot about 40, second to a little after 70, and third a little after 105 thats when i put it in overdrive and watch it sail to 125 where the limiter kicks in. I have shifted my tranny forever and it is fine.

The Saturn automatic trannies though are very very weak. I have two co-workers that drive newer saturns and the trannies have burnt out in them after a little over 60k miles...without even being hard on them. Now the SC series Saturns have a WOT switch that acts as the GM performance switch you had discussed earlier. At WOT the Saturn dumps all economizing and will go as best it can, which was meant to ease passing on highways because earlier Saturn's were known to be hesitant when trying to pass on highways at speeds of 65 or higher.