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Topic #16389 67 posts Started by hs2g
I have a 96 st and my bro has a 97 civic ex. Ive driven his and the whole car drives like poop compared to the celica. The handling is loose compared to the tight suspension on mine. And the clutch like pops out real quick and isnt compfortable at all.. It doesnt even feel like it pulls as good as mine. I just hate civics and celicas look and drive 100 times better.
-97sccelica+Sep 18, 2004 - 12:51 AM
well..since this is about a civic ex vs celica gt..i assume he was talking about civic ex and not nsx,h22, rsx blah blah....he's not that dumb... anyways, about that si civic and gsr integra beating him stock?..i dont think so...he handed their ass to them at the track..seeeeeeeeee...thats why you go TURBO

[color=#FF0000] I MISS MY RED BABY =(
c'mon now we're talking about racing a EX Civic here what's all this stuff about rsx, nsx, and integras coming out from...if you can't beat a EX Civic then you got problems. correct me if i'm wrong but other than the Si Civic the other Civics just sucks ass. if you think they are fast than...well something is wrong with you for thinking they are.
Everyone think about this :

While we sit here with out petty quarels, realy men with big cahones are on supra forums, or any real sports car forum are talking about racing real cars.. ferraris, lambos, vettes...

Just think about that... and now you can go cry
-Mike+Sep 18, 2004 - 3:38 PM

[color=#FF0000] I MISS MY RED BABY =(
-Ryu3x16+Sep 18, 2004 - 1:12 PM

1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition@gt4.wrc on Instagram
I don't know how Si and GSR got in this but I'm sure that a 6gc GT cannot beat them. As for me racing the EX its probably just a shifting problem. I launched at 3.5-4RPM the tires spin and I got him off the line regain traction at end of first then shift to 2nd at 5.5RPM. Same shift at 5.5 RPM through the gears.\

Our cars redline at around 6.5 right? So is it ok to go maybe to 6 or a little bit over?

This post has been edited by hs2g: Sep 18, 2004 - 11:39 PM

I don't think it'll be as easy as everyone here thinks. The EX Civics redline at 7k with fuel cut at 7200 I believe. The Celica GT fuel cuts at 6400 or so... so essentially, the Civic can pull for almost a full 1000 rpms longer and maintain his max torque that much longer, while you can only maintain till the peak (at 4500 rpms) then it'll drop off BIG TIME (~40 ft lbs) to redline. That's where the numbers game gets tricky... and simple numbers alone doesn't mean anything as far as some Hondas are concerned...

Anyways... I've beaten my cousin's former 95 Civic EX coupe by about a fender back when I was still tuning. After we tuned his car up some more (turns out his timing was negative a tooth) he was able to put a fender on me... and more than likely, I was a lot faster than you are.

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Sep 19, 2004 - 12:09 AM


"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
^ Just because our car redlines at a lower rpm dosen't mean anything
Its jsut ebcause we have more stroke and less bore which is unusual for japanese cars, that gives the gt the 145lbs/ft torque, which is decent i will admit

but about the torque band, i guess your right because i have no idea how big it is on our cars, i agree, it does seem to drop off substantialy near redline
-Mike+Sep 19, 2004 - 5:25 AM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
I never disagreed with you really, all i ment was that torque band is far more important than redline.. the viper for instance redlines at like 5500 rpm or 6000.. someting of that nature, but it has a massive torque band.. i know that the civic has a good torque band in the higher rpms, but all i was saying is that its not really the redline that matters as much as the torque band and for how long a vehicle can sustain max torque...

but i generally agree, it does suck that our cars trail off after 4500rpms...
i guess thats why so many ppl are goin boosted..
97sccelica and Kwanza...c'mon now how are you guys gonna talk when you both have a st celica. the st is what 115 hp compared to the gt which is 140 hp stock. you can have your little intake, headers and exhaust and probably still don't meet up with the gt celica's stock hp. c'mon now if you guys think the Civic Ex can take us then you guys are freakin wieird. i don't know about you two but i for one will never lose to a stock Civic EX turbo or no turbo.
-kdash+Sep 20, 2004 - 2:05 AM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
-kdash+Sep 19, 2004 - 6:05 PM

1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition@gt4.wrc on Instagram
you guys probably wont believe this ..
i raced a toyota mark 2 twin turbo 2.5 auto ......... off the line
but only till about the first gear .... and now im a legend in my area !!
may be his car was in bad shape or somthing !!!!!!
and also i raced a toyota scalet gt turbo .. till third gear ... then he gets ahead ..and then im ahead when i hit fourth ,....
may be his scarlet was in bad shape too ..
and everybody im my area thinks i have modifyed my car to the limit !!
-boosted_K2+Sep 16, 2004 - 4:08 AM
if you read further i corrected myself >wink.gif>

Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them allNo but I don't buy itLike anything you do, as anyone you areCause I'm...Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial
LOL my bad i only read the first page hehe....
hahahah vtec sucks my rear.. anyway if you take out everything in your car i mean everything. except your seat you will lose about 150-200 pounds. which gives you about 2 hp (rakes care of vtec) but dont street race. road race its what are cars are meant for. anyway enjoy.... vtec sucks trust me its mind over matter >wink.gif>.
just to let you know my st (96) spanked a vtec 98 civic at track 2 runs in a row. and a integra at the track. and 4 times on the street vtec is overrated.
-shadycrew31+Sep 25, 2004 - 11:30 PM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
To whoever started this post, our cars will beet any civic stock v stock, execpt for the si's(at least this has been my experience). So no offence but it's prolly just your driving ability. After only two months, i wouldn't think you would be a great driver. Also, if this is one of your first races, one day u will look back and realize how bad u sucked, i do it all the time now. So just keep at it, u will get better >smile.gif>. Also remember our cars max hp/trq is at 5600, so u want to shift right after that, right about 6, no later.
-psyko+Sep 26, 2004 - 4:00 AM
yea you're not the only one..but...why would u poke fun at kwanza's ST?...u don't know him very well do you?

A Jaws4God Creation...
-vangSTa_celica+Sep 26, 2004 - 4:17 AM

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
were you in the left or right lane?