i know performance parts for ST are limited...(unless im wrong then please let me know). what would be a better deal...building my st engine internally and dropping a custom turbo kit...or doing an engine swap? i know the 3sgte or a gt4 is alot of money and work...would it be advisble to swap a gt engine and drop a turbo kit already made for the gt...or should i just go for the swap? thankx
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-jbnery6465+Sep 21, 2004 - 8:32 AM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
okay here's the thing, its all about preference and amount money and reliability. Don't go for 5sfe and turbo thats the same amount of work as 3sgte with no where near the gain. turbo st is wut i'm personally going for one day but most would tell u for reliability just go with 3sgte it will cost more in begining but less in long term and once again the power is no were near the same. So in all if u got the money and the will go for 3sgte.
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-Drocay+Sep 21, 2004 - 11:00 AM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
or, if ya wanna be a bad-asss .. Buy an st block and head from someone that has already done the swap.. should be able to find for around 200 bucks.. Then slowly build the internals .. like when ya have time and money.. then set-up a turbo then when its allready just pull out yours drop it all in..a nd theres no need to change or modify anything.. . Like it would be so much easier then a swap.. should be able to swap it out in like a day... I think thats a really good i dea, i ight even do that my self.. damn im a freaking genious.. that cant spell..
Digndoug u are a ****in genious, that is prob one of the most rational ideas ever....u get the A for today
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i vote for 4age then turbo later. but i dont really know how well the four throttle bodys and well the eingine itself work with boost.
but yeah 4agte is my vote.
but yeah 4agte is my vote.
Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
-recneps+Sep 21, 2004 - 2:14 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
yeah itd be awesome. and a boosted car that could rev up to 8500 rpms would be awesome. but yeah it would cost way too much.
but it still gets my vote
but it still gets my vote
Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
to swap or to turbo depends on these questions
how much down time can you afford?
how much money do you want to spend?
how much power do you want?
how much down time can you afford?
how much money do you want to spend?
how much power do you want?
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3SGTE is the only way to go. anything else and you wont be happy. And the cost Really isn't that much different.
I was goingn to say, another thing is about modding the 7a, then turboing it.. your goign to want to get a dif tranny most likly, you could use the 4agze tranny, but thats just one more thing ot buy.. but then aain, I guess it would be just like using the gt tranny on the 3s ...
What ever happen to eather Doggy's 7a job, or the other guys, I remember someone was building a bad ass 7a .. any one know??
This post has been edited by Digndoug: Sep 22, 2004 - 11:42 AM
What ever happen to eather Doggy's 7a job, or the other guys, I remember someone was building a bad ass 7a .. any one know??
This post has been edited by Digndoug: Sep 22, 2004 - 11:42 AM
that was edo, in italy, he was on vacation then hasn't posted since i wonder about that too?!?!
didnt edo end up with high compression ? like 11:1 or something after his build
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-nik+Sep 22, 2004 - 6:51 PM
I know this is a lil more off this topic, but has any one ever heard of this?? JDM 4E-FTE 1.3L DOHC TURBO http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...&category=33615
yeah edo ended up witha compression of something like the 10.7:1 because he used the 4agze pistons which he thought would fit. but something about how the 7a pistons were cut differently.
or something
or something
Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
-recneps+Sep 22, 2004 - 12:02 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-Digndoug+Sep 22, 2004 - 11:53 AM
-nik+Sep 22, 2004 - 7:06 PM
im pretty sure its 81mm
here is a kit
Geo Prism 1762cc 16V DOHC 1993-97
Engine
Code Stock
Bore Kit # Includes: Price
7AFE 81mm EKTO29MPX Complete Gasket Set
Hussey Copper Gasket
ROSS Forged Performance Pistons
(81, 81.5, 82mm bore) and (8.5-1, 9.5-1, 10.5-1 comp ratio)
Performance Rings
Performance Wrist Pins
TOGA HP Main Bearings
TOGA HP Rod Bearings
Thrust Washers
Timing Belt
Freeze Plugs $949
This post has been edited by nik: Sep 22, 2004 - 2:28 PM
here is a kit
Geo Prism 1762cc 16V DOHC 1993-97
Engine
Code Stock
Bore Kit # Includes: Price
7AFE 81mm EKTO29MPX Complete Gasket Set
Hussey Copper Gasket
ROSS Forged Performance Pistons
(81, 81.5, 82mm bore) and (8.5-1, 9.5-1, 10.5-1 comp ratio)
Performance Rings
Performance Wrist Pins
TOGA HP Main Bearings
TOGA HP Rod Bearings
Thrust Washers
Timing Belt
Freeze Plugs $949
This post has been edited by nik: Sep 22, 2004 - 2:28 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-nik+Sep 22, 2004 - 7:22 PM
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/pek-geo.html
so say 1500 in turbo parts 1000 total engine rebuild kit. and a shock engine (internal) can handle up to 170-180 wheel horse and about 190-200 wheel torque after the rebuild say coated pistons etc i think it could hit the 240 whp and 260 wtp at say 12- 14 psi just a guess
so say 1500 in turbo parts 1000 total engine rebuild kit. and a shock engine (internal) can handle up to 170-180 wheel horse and about 190-200 wheel torque after the rebuild say coated pistons etc i think it could hit the 240 whp and 260 wtp at say 12- 14 psi just a guess
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
i guess time and money for me limited b/c of school...yeah the 3sgte swap would be feasible, but i guess in my case i'd just build my 7a....enough to at least smoke some showoff civics in my area...lol...then drop a turbo, was thinking a t3/t4 so at least id get some juice in both ends...how about supercharging the 7afe??hhmmm....thanks for all the replies by the way
-nik+Sep 22, 2004 - 8:30 PM
-Digndoug+Sep 22, 2004 - 1:53 PM
here is zipstrips dyno graph http://www.6gc.net/photo.php?file=/images/...hotos/87_23.jpg
160 horse and 170 torque to the wheels psi ??
i bought his turbo, manifold, and intercooler piping
i think i'm about 165-170 horse and 170-185 torque at 8psi (a guess)
160 horse and 170 torque to the wheels psi ??
i bought his turbo, manifold, and intercooler piping
i think i'm about 165-170 horse and 170-185 torque at 8psi (a guess)
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-nik+Sep 22, 2004 - 9:08 PM
-Digndoug+Sep 22, 2004 - 2:25 PM