I agree... the civic is the main reason honda has such a bad name. Not the car... but just about every little ricer out there that knows nothing about cars except how they sound and what kind of system is in it are civic drivers. Of course there are some people that actually know something about their cars... but it seems as though the majority of those people drive civics... probably due to their inexpensive quality and great gas milage.. so parents have no guffs when coughing up the dough to buy their kids one. Honda motors, however, are solid.

i totally disagree with the fact the hondas are soild motos thyre all right but i would go to say solid(i am just talking generaly about the b seris motors because i know nothing of any other honda seris).

what they last forever i hear that all the time. well ive seen a ford with 260,000 on it and still ran pretty good. toyotas do that (with the exclusion of the turboed motors) volvo motors do that.

now b seris motors are known to have horrible issues with the alternator and the a/c.

and the valves, oh the valves im not even gonna go into the valves here

now 127hp out of a 1.6l a feat? no not in the least ive seen what 225 out of the atlantica 4age. now 225hp out of a NA 1.6l now thats a feat.

oh and i think its funny how everyone agrees with kwanza and no one disputes what he says.

yeah..true.. honda's are great cars.... my cousin has a integra powered by h22 with greddy headers, intake and 5zigen exhaust system..and the car was kinda stripped... he beat lots of cars..i'm not even gonna lie, its FAST... anyways we took it out for a little run against my 3s swap (with TMIC).. off the line i took him (maybe it's because i did a better launch) then we shifted into 2nd i pulled on him about a fender and he held with me all the way i couldn't pull away much more.. I honestly thought that he would beat me but hey... anyways..uh..yeah..blah blah

honestly..why i don't try to dispute with kwanza is because i don't know much or maybe nothing about honda's other than they are king of rice..

This post has been edited by Ryu3x16: Sep 27, 2004 - 1:38 AM

-recneps+Sep 27, 2004 - 6:20 AM

kwanza...i've notice that..how come everytime you post in a thread..you end up starting some kind of argument against other members?... everytime a member post in a thread you come out of no where and call them ignorant and so on.. and then you go and talk about how great a honda motor is and how much you know about them..... same thing over and over in lots of thread.. i don't mean to offend you but that's just what i've notice

-recneps+Sep 27, 2004 - 6:51 AM

-Ryu3x16+Sep 27, 2004 - 7:01 AM

-recneps+Sep 27, 2004 - 7:16 AM

lets face it guys hondas are turning into fords.. there all made in america, (not that thats a bad thing) but umm there just not imports. as for there engines i think vtec is horible... oh my god yes i said it again.... unless your going in a stright line vtec doesnt do anything for you. i will race any stock prelude up a hill or on a track. and kill him, over and over and over. trust me i have over and over and over. in my little st, which well isnt really stock at all anymore. but if vtec is god how come he couldnt keep up. maybe the driver? i dunno. either way an engine is an engine. a driver is a driver. and thats all there is to it basic stuff, here people basic stuff. as for a crx with an h22 swap.. now that one is a pain in the ass. but oh my god the power of those lil things, amazing simply amazing. sorry to piss anyone off. im just stuck in my ways. but i only speak from expirence.

-lagos+Sep 25, 2004 - 9:59 PM

It all depends on the generation of the Prelude. My friends 3rd gen has many mods done to it and all I have is a CAI. I hold with him throughout the entire race >> (b21a1 with CAI, Full exhaust, Cam gears, lightened flywheel, performance clutch, LSD, upgraded ignition and a few other things) . If its a 5th gen it already has the H22 in it but it is slow because of the weight of the dang things (almost 3700 lbs), if they turbo that engine you are screwed though. Even with a 3sgte swap it would be hard to beat a turbo h22 swapped anything, provided its done right. The 5th gen prelude will take a GT/ST (with minor mods), bone stock. They are fairly quick cars, and in my opinion very hot.

-shadycrew31+Sep 27, 2004 - 7:51 AM

yeah but dosnt the B18C have a longer stroke and slightly increased compression like 50cc's or something.

anyways yeah vtec is good, it goes back to the point of the 3rd gen whos stock motor is comparable to the 5sfe. with a whole lot of mods cant beat a pretty much stock gt. hondas NEED vtec.

This post has been edited by recneps: Sep 27, 2004 - 11:29 AM

-recneps+Sep 27, 2004 - 4:28 PM

good lord, someone should rename this thread to the official defense for hondas....

lotta knowledge in here

-recneps+Sep 27, 2004 - 1:34 PM

sorry i meant i have a 4th gen 'lude, and its bad a$$

oh no not another honda arguement again

This post has been edited by kdash: Sep 27, 2004 - 1:29 PM