AFAIK, you signed an "As-Is" paper. No lawyers will even mess with you knowing that.

Keep your head up though, there's gotta be some loophole in there somewhere.

-brian

-Hym3n+Oct 6, 2004 - 8:53 AM

im still wondering if car-fax has a buy-back gaurentee(sp)

Prompt,
As many know, I work at a dealership. (and i'm not shady Soltrain >>). If the previous owner didn't claim or take it to an certified body shop - ones that reports - then carfax will come up blank. The carfax buyback only means that if a report was made and carfax doesn't say so, then they buy it. No report is made, it passes Carfax. Ok, aside from that. State safety inspections are very very minimal. I for one, even working at a dealership, am scared of how weak they are. For example, if the car has a Check Engine light on, thats all that needs to be checked. Meaning the window will say "Check Engine Light is on," you ask and you'll get a "we didnt go that far into it." DAMN! So, a frame damaged car that looks almost perfect would probably pass state inspection. The big conserns are Cat back exhaust is ok, intake is ok, oil is ok, etc. Not problems with the radio, or clutch above 6000rpm, or whatever. Which sucks for purchasers. Since you signed a "as is" paper, your moreorless screwed. As soon as you drove that car off the lot, you said that the car in its current condition is ok, and that you accept all problems that are on the car. You really cant hold the dealership at fault. My dealership would most likely help you out because you just bought the car, but we have a good rep too. Find out what its gonna take to fix her up and ask the owner of the store to try and help you out. If he says no, well then you should just accept it rather then get mad. Only because he can counter-sue with harrassment. ALSO, give him his plate back!!!! Your gonna get in series trouble if he calls the police. I know this post isn't that great and doesn't leave much hope, but goodluck and keep up posted.

-Ti

I'm gonna ask my service department if frames would be checked

EDIT: After talking with my used car manager, he says that if we check that the frame is good but its not, we're F'd. However, he added that Wisconsin has the best safety in the country. Wisconsin is Super-user friendly and its a hard safety to squeeze problems by. Good luck, get an attorney and ask them for legal advice.

This post has been edited by turboinduction: Oct 6, 2004 - 9:58 AM

hey, at the very least you should call the better business buero and report him. Definately have a lawyer check out your case, they usually do that for free so they can determine if they are gonna make any money from your case. If your really bored because you can't play with your new car, you can hang out by his dealership and tell customers that are trying to buy from him, what happened to you and tell them to go somewhere else. Maybe if you cost him enough business, he'll try and get you some money back. Just try reporting him to any business beuro's you can find so other people might be warned. Good luck.

Call a lawyer

update?

i say take him to that stud of judge judy hahah or either keep it as a nice 7000 dollar project....when i worked at mitsubishi they inspected then pretty good in and out...just cuz thet could sell them for more...paint was touched up,bumpers re done even dents were removed...anything bad would just be auction material....but sounds like you got a mom and pops place....just try your hardest to sue him..

After I called the DMV in NH. They told me to write a letter of complaint to the state police department. Which I did and mailed out today. When I got home the Hampton Falls police called my house, because the guy actually called the police. So I told them the story and the cop talked to him. Now all the sudden the guy is willing to take a look at the car. Which isn't going to happen.

Firstly, why did you buy a car that isn't a Toyota?

Also, how could you buy a car without having someone check it out for you first? there is a say in my country that goes: i am blinding you and sell and you keep looking and buying. Never take anything for granted and never wait for the law to prove your point.

because I needed something with more power on the track >>

In my state if the car as been in any wreck it's illeagel not to tell the person about it. But anyway are u sure eclipses even have a frame ? most japanese cars dont' have a frame they have a unibody. Which it is kinda hard to bend, the only thing i've ever heard of bending was the craddle, and all parts of a unibody can be replaced. When i hit my crub someone told me my frame was bent, but of course celi's dont' have a frame. Anyway come to find out just my shocks and hub assemlies where bent causing it to look like everything was bent. oh any my rims where messed up too so everything looked at worst then it ended up being. SO dont' give up yet, but i'd bet it has a unibody instead of a frame, so have a BODYSHOP look at it and you can prolly fix the car, don't worry keep at it. just remember when your fixing stuff, get aftermarkets where u can, like shocks, u can get all factory parts u need from a junkyard.

-psyko+Oct 7, 2004 - 2:51 PM

call BBB, also call your State office for fraud, and call a media reporter in your area that does consumer fruad stories and hire a lawyer to contac them. I'm not trying to bring you down any further, but one thing I did before buying a used car was to actually let the dealer know I was taking the car for inspection prior to purchase. I put a $50 deposit down, had an inspection, and found out what the issues were with the car. It was a Toyota dealer I bought the car from. Buying a car without an independent inspection was a mistake... though I know you realize this now.

-shid+Oct 7, 2004 - 10:28 AM

just trying to give him some hope and help, i thought i knew what i was talking about, but i guess i was wrong. thx for correction turboinduction.

Man, that sucks. That's not too far from here, if you don't get justice let me know and I'll go down and shoot the place up.

>>

Also if you do sell your Celica, let me know.

Updates?

Few months went by talking to state police. They didn't help. Then tried the Attorney General..he didn't help either. Well 2 weeks ago I went ahead and hired a lawyer. First thing he tells me is that he has this in a bag if we go to court.

So at that time he filed a "demand letter" telling them that within 30 days. They have to pay me the cost of what I paid for the car, what I have made for payment, the interest ive paid, and what I have paid in insurance. If they do not comply within the 30 days. They are going to court. Where I can sue for up to 4x the amount of the accumulation of everything stated above.

He also said since hes 100% he is going to win. He will do a constingacy(sp?) base pay. Where I don't have to pay the lawyer fees until the suit is over, and he'll take a 1/3 of the final amount. Which should leave me with roughly $16,000. Which I will spend on a 98 GSX that isn't broken. >> >>

Im not too big on suin ppl, but sue his @ss......

yea prompt, what happend with this ?

How court go? Cuz i'm guessing they didn't just give the money back

just remeber, that if you win and get say 8000, hes gettin almost 3000 of that and ur stuck with about 5k and no car. good luck on winning

o yeah and youu must have a very good chance of winning if the lawyer is going on contingency. becuase if u dont win, thats no pay for him for several weeks

This post has been edited by DamDirtyApes: Jun 30, 2005 - 3:14 PM

if all else fails you can always insure the car and dump it or crash it into a guardrail >>