We'll I was in a chat room when we started talking about cars. This one guy was talking about how horrible my Celica is and that I should trash it because it was very unreliable. He then started bragging about GM. I said taht my Toyota was a very reliable car and that I loved it.....because thats all that matters right? Then he started saying how the Celica is the gayest car in the world and worse than a Civic. I asked him "how would you know? you never owned a Celica before!" He then replied that he did and it was the worst car he ever had. He said that "when I put it in the Toyota dealership they didn't know how to fix it...those toyota guys are all losers". I just sat there waiting for my response.....I didn't want to diss GM because I do like GM and all. I then asked him if his GM broke down before and he replied with a "yes". He then said

"I would take a GM rather than a Toyota anyday......at least those guys know how to fix them other than your crap cars"

then I replied with a...

"GM knows how to fix them because they break down all the freakin time!"

Good comeback? yes? no? oh well lol...i'm bored.just thought i'd post it ahah

-Nate

lol >>

IMO general motors is a dying company. they used to have a good market where young 'uns would get pontiacs or saturns, then as we get older we trade it in for a chevy or buick, as we have families we get GMC's or Saab's, then when we get even older we get cadillacs or oldsmobiles, but they really haven't shown alot of improvement despite their large number of "brands". In fact they were deciding on pulling oldsmobile out of their line-up as well as other decisions to cut costs. It is a good company, but its out of its time.

I thought Oldsmobile was already to be pulled?

-Nate

ya olds is dead after 2003 model year

most of these domestic owners aren't even worth argueing with. gm more reliable than toyota? how does that even make sense?

iono? LOL

-Nate

--gh0st_d0g+Mar 15, 2003 - 2:29 PM

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Mar 15, 2003 - 2:29 PM)

most of these domestic owners aren't even worth argueing with. gm more reliable than toyota? how does that even make sense?

that whole dispute never gets anywhere, quoted from my post in OT:
"you never get anywhere with the import vs domestic dispute. the fact is you cant compare "all imports" are better than "all domestics" or vise versa... fact is theres lots of imports that can rape most domestics, and lots of domestic that can rape most imports... a car is a car, its a frame, wheels, suspension, engine, drivetrain, and a little seat... if you know what you are doing and have some cash to back it up... anything can beat anything."


somewhat applies here, although it applied alot better in the other thread lol

i find it funny out of all of us celica owners who end up in this dispute, 9 outa ten times its the domestic owner who starts the topic >>

I know the dispute doesn't get anywhere......but hey! I gotta defend my Celica right? =P

-Nate

well....i have a pontiac firebird too >>

and that mofo would beat down most ricers, so i have my pick, firebird for speed/ celica for looks, sound, mileage, pretty much everything else cept speed, lol

yes it is not at all worth argueing with a domestic owner, HELL, any kind of car. if the guy likes the car, he wont stop supporting it

and with GM, they know how to fix everything because they havent changed a single damn thing for the past 50 years. all they did was change body styles and add fuel injection. and some of their newer cars are actually toyotas(the vibe, some cavaliers, etc, the engines in geos)

i personally, dont have a preferance on cars(for the most part) a car is a car, and all are engineering marvels. all of them must be respected for what they are

but there is no chance in hell that a GM anything will be as reliable as a toyota. my friend's 1998 gmc sierra is at 103k mi and it has blown an intake manifold gasket, 2 alternators, master cylinder, injectors, bad freeze plugs. all that has been changed out and he EXPECTS the tranny to die at 150k miles, that is the expected life on almost all of their truck/suv tranny's with the v8 engines, lol

how is that for reliable? >> (btw he has only had the car for the past 6000 miles, who knows what happened before he bought it)

nothing beats honda and Toyota(and their subsidaries) for reliability

BTW, i find that most GM owners(mainly the trucks and SUV's) are real assholes, and they do start arguements(and the arguements are not fun like one with a ricer)

This post has been edited by 97sccelica: Mar 15, 2003 - 6:52 PM

I guess hes not the choosen one.

who me? LOL

-Nate

Oh yea everything broke down on my uncles Chevy Astro Van after only 70K miles LOL. We were on the freeway and the tranny went all screwey ahaha!

-Nate

GM...??!?!?! whos that?? lol every domestic car I have ever had broke with in a year....

but then every import I have had runs like a champ.. hell I had a 86 prelude that had over 200k on it and it still ran awesome.. even after two REALLY bad wreaks that probably shoulda killed me or at least mess me up really good....

kinda think I know where my loyalty is >>

--XE_Nathaniel+Mar 15, 2003 - 11:16 PM

QUOTE (XE_Nathaniel @ Mar 15, 2003 - 11:16 PM)

who me? LOL -Nate

No him >>

Oooh am I the chosen one......wait wait......I hear a voice

Nate: Master? is that you
Hollow voice: "use the force.......putang ina"
Nate: dang it oreo get out of my Celica.

-Nate

Sounds like Oreo is using a well placed walkie-talkie to fuk with nathaniel

--Neipas09+Mar 16, 2003 - 4:11 AM

QUOTE (Neipas09 @ Mar 16, 2003 - 4:11 AM)

Sounds like Oreo is using a well placed walkie-talkie to fuk with nathaniel

>>

Never mind dood, just sputtin out sylabuls and stuff.

my celica has 131 in change on the dash and still is on its stock clutch and i get great gas mileage, no complaints here...

Toyota > GM

If you guys want to see a argument..go to the supra site I posted in off topic. Those guys get no where. My family owns both GM and Toyota and both are doing alright..but on a whole most foriegn cars last longer. Oh...and i just remembered in the consumer reports book for 2002 it said...domestic cars are about 10 years behind in reliability compared to japenese..(sp?sorry..) cars....comon..if consumer reports says it...then it must be!!

This post has been edited by jumpinccv: Mar 16, 2003 - 5:50 PM

LOL I read it...ahaha.......honestly I do own some GM's but man do those domestic guys really try to talk ish..they are worst than those import defenders that also talk ish.

i like how imports are so much more reliable than a for ex: a mustang that guzzles gas and is always getting fixed..but god i love the new Ram Air Trans AM.. the WS6 is NASTY! >>

right now I own a '94 s-10 blazer with 150,000 miles and it still runs strong. But it still don't ride like my Celica. >>

i don't think there's 1 domestic that i would take over an import.

nothing will ever compare to american muscle though. sure imports can be as fast in a straight line, but just the feel of the torque and raw power will never be duplicated. and of course the japanese imports are more reliable, but it's all a matter of personal preference. american cars help the american economy, and also go those who wanna get something comperable for cheaper...it's all about preference. to each his own. i choose toyota, and always will, but that doens't mean i wouldn't have a vette, or a viper, or a cobra, or a nice dodge ram, or full sized chevy on bags....mmmmm, it's all about money, options, and what you wanna do. >>

-John-

Have our celica's been dissed by their own owners? >>

Yup.

-Nate >>