just wondering what it is and how i can fix it if its bad. I read about the blue smoke but is that different? Its kinda whiteish maybe blue not tooo sure b/c its not a lot of smoke also im kinda color blind so its hard. But yeah white smoke (possibly blue). Any thoughts? thanks guys
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well blue will be the oil.
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Does your car have a turbo?Because it could be your seals going.But either way it sounds like oil!
how many miles does to have??? if its over 60k have you ever changed you head gasket ... i know my old 5sfe started doing that and it was the head gasket .... so ui jsut swaped the motor lmao
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valve stem seals.
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white smoke is coolant burning. the valve stem seals would emit a blue smoke since there is oil on the seals.
This post has been edited by rjbibeau: Nov 16, 2004 - 12:04 AM
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damn well it all sounds bad ill take a look tomorrow morning. I just had the 60k check up not to long ago and everything was fine... the car only has 57k on it or like 56789 somethin like that haha 5-6-7-8-9 funny didn't realize but yeah not too much and with the check up should b ok...
-rjbibeau+Nov 15, 2004 - 11:04 PM
He DID say he was somewhat color blind and it's only a little bit of smoke from cold starts which has been determined that the most likely culprite is valve stem seals.
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This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Nov 16, 2004 - 1:22 AM
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white smoke is coolant burning. the valve stem seals would emit a blue smoke since there is oil on the seals.
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He DID say he was somewhat color blind and it's only a little bit of smoke from cold starts which has been determined that the most likely culprite is valve stem seals.
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is it only in the mornings (when its cold i.e. around 30 - 40)or all times of the day like when its 70 outside.
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nop SOLEY the mornings after that im clear as well..clear ok
White smoke is rarely a problem, black and blue possibly. White smoke in only the mornings is usually moisture build up from the car sitting over night with the morning dew, much of the same that happens to your windows over night.
More likely then not, its nothing to worry about.
More likely then not, its nothing to worry about.
You guys are scaring the sh!t outta him, my god.
Its most likely condensation, IE why its only in the mornings where EVERYONES car does this in the mornings.
Did it do this in the summer?
Its most likely condensation, IE why its only in the mornings where EVERYONES car does this in the mornings.
Did it do this in the summer?
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if youve done some engine work, you might a crossed some lines coolant w/ vac etc... but i think it is also just cus its morning.
My car does this.. in the morning.. and during the day.. when it's hot.. or cold outside.
I was told I needed a new head gasket.
I was told I needed a new head gasket.
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-Jen+Nov 17, 2004 - 8:28 PM
Sounds like you do. You can do a compression test and see if 1 or 2 are below normal, and you can also check your oil next time you change it. If it is milky, then your leaking coolant, most likely a blown head gasket. If the coolant gets mixed in with the oil... well you can imagine what it can do to your internals. When you do get it replaced, make sure you know why it blew in the first place, and address it so it doesnt happen again. Many times if your engine overheats, the head will warp, and cause the gasket to blow. So if you replace the gasket, take the head to a machine shop and make sure it is totally flat.
QUOTE(Jen @ Nov 17, 2004 - 8:28 PM)
My car does this.. in the morning.. and during the day.. when it's hot.. or cold outside.
I was told I needed a new head gasket.
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Sounds like you do. You can do a compression test and see if 1 or 2 are below normal, and you can also check your oil next time you change it. If it is milky, then your leaking coolant, most likely a blown head gasket. If the coolant gets mixed in with the oil... well you can imagine what it can do to your internals. When you do get it replaced, make sure you know why it blew in the first place, and address it so it doesnt happen again. Many times if your engine overheats, the head will warp, and cause the gasket to blow. So if you replace the gasket, take the head to a machine shop and make sure it is totally flat.
it doesn't mean that he can have someone else tell him what color smoke it is.
A blown head gasket would be alot more noticeable than some smoke.
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Condensation... period
Yeah I don't think it is any thing to worry about about. My car does it in the morning and I see it coming from all the other cars too.
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well checked this morning, maybe it was a little warmer out or somethin but no smoke and yes its only in the mornings and yes my car sits outside all night and no it didn't do it in the summer and for the questions ur gonna ask the answers are yes yes no yes no no no yes yes and you will only live to age 67 and will have 3 kids and wait, srry times up. =D but i think im ok guys.
i get smoke everytime i start the car regardless of the temperature. but when i start driving it, the smoke clears.
i think i've got big problems....i was told that it won't pass smog...
how much does it usually cost to replace the head gasket? what's a fair price on a rebuild kit? thanks in advance.
i think i've got big problems....i was told that it won't pass smog...
how much does it usually cost to replace the head gasket? what's a fair price on a rebuild kit? thanks in advance.
-Doge+Nov 17, 2004 - 5:01 PM
agreed
my car does any time its cold outside & thats about it
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Condensation... period
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agreed
my car does any time its cold outside & thats about it
Blue is Oil, Usually from bad piston rings, bad piston, or cracked block (Most Expensive to Fix)
White - Gray is usually anti-freeze, usually from a bad headgasket, and sometimes with a cracked block. (Less Expensive to fix)
Black is fuel, if you spew black, your running too rich, Not gunna mess your engine up. (Little Expense to tune out)
Sometimes when its cold out, it is just condensation
Blue is kinda a whitish blue color, but definately should be able to tell.
If you smoke white smoke all the time, no matter what, you have an antifreeze leak, you can also tell because your antifreeze has most likely mixed with your oil, and turned it into a sludgy gray color.
Those are all teh colors you engine should put out, unless someone put some green dye in there somewhere.
White - Gray is usually anti-freeze, usually from a bad headgasket, and sometimes with a cracked block. (Less Expensive to fix)
Black is fuel, if you spew black, your running too rich, Not gunna mess your engine up. (Little Expense to tune out)
Sometimes when its cold out, it is just condensation
Blue is kinda a whitish blue color, but definately should be able to tell.
If you smoke white smoke all the time, no matter what, you have an antifreeze leak, you can also tell because your antifreeze has most likely mixed with your oil, and turned it into a sludgy gray color.
Those are all teh colors you engine should put out, unless someone put some green dye in there somewhere.
-cheesebacon+Dec 9, 2004 - 10:11 AM
Headgaskets are time consuming and expensive, its about a 6+ Hour Job (Mitchell Time Book) That means it will most likely be around $500-600 Labor +-100, +200 +-50 for parts.
Have you actually tested your smog at a MVA or DMV Test site, just because it smokes in the morning doesnt mean it wont pass smog tests.
QUOTE(cheesebacon @ Dec 9, 2004 - 10:11 AM)
i get smoke everytime i start the car regardless of the temperature. but when i start driving it, the smoke clears.
i think i've got big problems....i was told that it won't pass smog...
how much does it usually cost to replace the head gasket? what's a fair price on a rebuild kit? thanks in advance.
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i think i've got big problems....i was told that it won't pass smog...
how much does it usually cost to replace the head gasket? what's a fair price on a rebuild kit? thanks in advance.
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Headgaskets are time consuming and expensive, its about a 6+ Hour Job (Mitchell Time Book) That means it will most likely be around $500-600 Labor +-100, +200 +-50 for parts.
Have you actually tested your smog at a MVA or DMV Test site, just because it smokes in the morning doesnt mean it wont pass smog tests.
condensation.
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dude head down to your local NAPA and head to the oil and fuel additives, and find the stuff that guarantees you will pass a SMOG test. Probably can't do much harm, and if you are financially strapped it might buy some time.
This post has been edited by exxtractor: Dec 12, 2004 - 9:19 PM
This post has been edited by exxtractor: Dec 12, 2004 - 9:19 PM
Mine does this too, it might be leaking oil, i found the leak in the head gasket and when i fixed that it cleared up pretty well
nice. thanks for the tips guys. i'll do that soon. yah my oil is definitely leaking...how long did it take you to fix it, strunner?
cylinder head gasket,fix asap,do you have a white gunk under the oil cap after you run it?
white in the mornings is nearly always condensation in the exhaust, nothing to worry about at all unless you have 'cream' around your oil cap as well.
if you have a big jap exhaust they are ven more prone to the build up of water condensation in the winter, hence the white smoke
if you have a big jap exhaust they are ven more prone to the build up of water condensation in the winter, hence the white smoke