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Topic #18986 51 posts Started by JGS3SGE
I like it ! Very good job , stand alone will make the difference. Can`t wait to compare the number with a standart 3sgte. It`s priceless to be different >biggrin.gif>

claude
-JGS3SGE+Dec 5, 2004 - 2:32 AM
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-Digndoug+Dec 4, 2004 - 6:21 PM
QUOTE(Digndoug @ Dec 4, 2004 - 6:21 PM)
Thats hot, what year and gen is the engine??
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Good question... not sure the year. It is a 2nd gen 3SGE which I believe came in the Jspec 5th gen.
Its really my idea of the perfect 3SGTE >smile.gif>
Dual mode intake (opening a second plentum down stream effectively negates the runners up stream)
Same valve train hardware as the USDM (for replacement, the 3rd gen are very different).
N/A cams for higher rpm performance
Higher velocity ports

The only thing its lacking is VVT, hmmm...But I don't think I have enough room for the VVT actuator >frown.gif>
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Sweet, As far as i know, the 2nd gen, is with would be around 92(the one i have sitting in my garage) is rated at 174hp stock, the 3rd gen, was rated at 164hp; same engine but somthign was changed. Then the 4th gen was the beams.
I think the 2nd gen was rated at 165HP and the 3rd gen was 174 HP...
you have the stock st tranny?? lol how is that holding up??
what numbers do you plan on aiming for?
-drdos+Dec 6, 2004 - 2:13 AM
QUOTE(drdos @ Dec 6, 2004 - 2:13 AM)
you have the stock st tranny?? lol how is that holding up??
what numbers do you plan on aiming for?
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hes using a S-53, a gt transmission.

This post has been edited by recneps: Dec 5, 2004 - 9:32 PM

Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
-recneps+Dec 6, 2004 - 2:30 AM
QUOTE(recneps @ Dec 6, 2004 - 2:30 AM)
-drdos+Dec 6, 2004 - 2:13 AM
QUOTE(drdos @ Dec 6, 2004 - 2:13 AM)
you have the stock st tranny?? lol how is that holding up??
what numbers do you plan on aiming for?
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hes using a S-53, a gt transmission.
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o ok
Yup, and the S-53 is just for the break-in...
I have a NICE E-153 ready to have a Quaife ATB diff. installed, when funds are sufficent ($1245 is a good chunk of change with X-mas comming).
anyways man whats up with this secondary injectors thing. do they have there own fuel rail and line or whats up.

dont guess you could snap a pic for me,im very interested in this?

Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
I added a second fuel rail and injectors under the intake manifold...
I have a pic somewhere I will see if I can post it.
Man....I love the degree of ingenuity that takes place on this site. All you guys are sick.....absolutely sick. >biggrin.gif>

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.
-JGS3SGE+Dec 7, 2004 - 3:29 AM
QUOTE(JGS3SGE @ Dec 7, 2004 - 3:29 AM)
Secondary injection-
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How do you feed your secondary injector set??
You have a 2 fuel pumps set up?? A SupraTT fuel pump shouldn't be enough to feed all 8 injectors.
Huh? A supra TT pump is good for 500-600HP, it doesn't matter how many injectors. Its just like running a V8- 8 injectors, 1 pump, 1 regulator. I feed the larger 2nd rail first then the OEM 3SGE rail then its outlet goes to the regulator. The way its now is good for 400-450WHP.
Why are you using a dual fuel rail set up?Couldnt you make a custom fuel rail and switch from side feed injecters to top feed and run supra aftermarket 600cc injecters and get the same performance?Just a question.And It still is sick Im just wondering?
It was easier at the time to run dual injectors, we had all the parts and a rail that worked. Also the stock injection location leaves something to be desired, under runner injection is less of an restriction to air flow. Not to mention is lets you run insane injectors without the crappy low pulse width flow pattern... IE less dynamic hicups.

Also I have some other plans as well, I maybe adding a cell, additional pump, second reg., and return line. The second tank would be loaded with 120 oct and with the AEM you can transition from the primary injectors to the secondary injectors...
Its basically a dynamic way of switching from crap gas to race gas under load >smile.gif> Saving that $5 gal. race gas (with its sensor munching lead) for only when required by boost pressure >biggrin.gif>

A little complicated and high-tech but who wants to be dull >tongue.gif> .
-JGS3SGE+Dec 7, 2004 - 5:20 PM
QUOTE(JGS3SGE @ Dec 7, 2004 - 5:20 PM)
Huh? A supra TT pump is good for 500-600HP, it doesn't matter how many injectors. Its just like running a V8- 8 injectors, 1 pump, 1 regulator. I feed the larger 2nd rail first then the OEM 3SGE rail then its outlet goes to the regulator. The way its now is good for 400-450WHP.
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I see... I see... I hope you'll get your targeted whp....

By the way.... can you post your Mods every now and then. I'll love to follow up as your idea of Moding is not something that I can see everyday. Should be interesting.... .

are you running cats?

i thought i saw a secondary under there.

BTW. awesome ingenuity with the secondary injectors

This post has been edited by recneps: Dec 7, 2004 - 7:53 PM

Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
Actually I do have a cat... for what reason, I'm not sure WHY...
Its a 3 in high-flo cat tho >biggrin.gif>
i was just wondering bacause you said you were running leaded gas on a car with a cat.

Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
Well, I'm not running leaded yet... if I do the seperate race gas setup, I'll be adding a cut-out pre cat. High boost + race gas + cut-out = intoxicating.
>biggrin.gif>
But its hard to worry about it too much until I get some miles on it >frown.gif>
I'd be driving it more but its raining ALOT.
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Well, I'm not running leaded yet... if I do the seperate race gas setup, I'll be adding a cut-out pre cat. High boost + race gas + cut-out = intoxicating.

But its hard to worry about it too much until I get some miles on it 
I'd be driving it more but its raining ALOT.


anyways its awesome man.

Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise