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Topic #19360 20 posts Started by biglipzit
Hey does anyone have any performance comparisons between a 7afte and other toyota engines used in celicas??? I would be interested to see how well the 7afte does against a 4age 20 valve or a 4agze or even the 3sgte's... Will the 7afte beat a 4age 20 valve in a quarter mile???

This post has been edited by biglipzit: Dec 14, 2004 - 2:35 PM
probably good contender for the 4a and possibly the 4a SC but the 3s will wipe the floor with it.

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-biglipzit+Dec 14, 2004 - 7:34 PM
QUOTE(biglipzit @ Dec 14, 2004 - 7:34 PM)
Hey does anyone have any performance comparisons between a 7afte and other toyota engines used in celicas??? I would be interested to see how well the 7afte does against a 4age 20 valve or a 4agze or even the 3sgte's... Will the 7afte beat a 4age 20 valve in a quarter mile???
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A 7AFTE at modest boost levels (6-8 psi) will be about par with a 4AGZE overdriven to 8-10psi. The 20V doesn't make enough torque to hang with a 7AFTE or 4AGZE in the 1/4 mile... but it'll probably take them on the track...

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Nik and his turbo 7A-FE isn't too far from me. >wink.gif>

Would be an interesting race on the track sometime. I still don't know what I could run with this car. And I hope to have it sold soon, so maybe the buyer can race their local 7A-FTE. >smile.gif>

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what if i swap a 4aze instead of my 7afe but i want like more then 10psi like 15psi

and yes i will upgrade the necessary things to do it
I don't think you'd have a problem taking out most 7A-FTEs with a 4A-GZE running 15 PSI.

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hey coomer spokane race way 1/4 mile me and you what ya think >smile.gif>


-Coomer+Dec 14, 2004 - 2:20 PM
QUOTE(Coomer @ Dec 14, 2004 - 2:20 PM)
Nik and his turbo 7A-FE isn't too far from me. >wink.gif>

Would be an interesting race on the track sometime. I still don't know what I could run with this car. And I hope to have it sold soon, so maybe the buyer can race their local 7A-FTE. >smile.gif>
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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-nik+Dec 14, 2004 - 1:31 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Dec 14, 2004 - 1:31 PM)
hey coomer spokane race way 1/4 mile me and you what ya think >smile.gif>


I think you'll win. >biggrin.gif>

How much boost are you running now? And does your car have any problems? I saw some blue smoke when we were cruising and I was behind you at the Tri Cities meet. >wink.gif>

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the seals in the turbo are tossed its getting sent in for a rebuild this weekend i've boosted upwards of 12 psi i need a new clutch other than that she runs fine i dirve her everyday only smokes under hard boost 7 + psi i'm getting oil in the intake side of the turbo everything will get fixed over x-mas break >biggrin.gif> then its go time

-Coomer+Dec 14, 2004 - 2:33 PM
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-nik+Dec 14, 2004 - 1:31 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Dec 14, 2004 - 1:31 PM)
hey coomer spokane race way 1/4 mile me and you what ya think >smile.gif>


I think you'll win. >biggrin.gif>

How much boost are you running now? And does your car have any problems? I saw some blue smoke when we were cruising and I was behind you at the Tri Cities meet. >wink.gif>
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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Haha, yeah, I think you'll take me at 7 PSI...you never know though. I'm sure that off the line you'll beat me, but once I hit about 4,000 RPM in first the car pulls very well until I let off. But I still don't think I'll win. >tongue.gif>

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-Coomer+Dec 14, 2004 - 2:39 PM
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Haha, yeah, I think you'll take me at 7 PSI...you never know though. I'm sure that off the line you'll beat me, but once I hit about 4,000 RPM in first the car pulls very well until I let off. But I still don't think I'll win. >tongue.gif>
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if you keep that car and turbod it. that would be one mean celica >biggrin.gif>
well if we ever have a a little meet over here we should go to the race way and try a few celicas out >smile.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
hhaha you two...lol

but yea i either wana do a 7agte or a 4aze both around the 10-15psi mark

the 7 would be 8 everyday and 13 or so on the good days or against a bmw
Yeah, if I kept it, I'd keep it N/A, convert to standalone, and run velocity stacks. Then I could imagine winning. But that just won't happen. >wink.gif>

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-playr158+Dec 14, 2004 - 1:47 PM
QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 14, 2004 - 1:47 PM)
hhaha you two...lol

but yea i either wana do a 7agte or a 4aze both around the 10-15psi mark

the 7 would be 8 everyday and 13 or so on the good days or against a bmw
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Playr, do you realize that with a 4A-GZE you have to change pulleys and belts to change boost levels? >wink.gif>

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-Coomer+Dec 14, 2004 - 2:48 PM
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-playr158+Dec 14, 2004 - 1:47 PM
QUOTE(playr158 @ Dec 14, 2004 - 1:47 PM)
hhaha you two...lol

but yea i either wana do a 7agte or a 4aze both around the 10-15psi mark

the 7 would be 8 everyday and 13 or so on the good days or against a bmw
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Playr, do you realize that with a 4A-GZE you have to change pulleys and belts to change boost levels? >wink.gif>
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Just trying to get you to keep your celi >biggrin.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
lol i beat a sick 4age 20 valve levin last sunday on the quartermile with my 7afe or he said it was sick o i dont know but another levin with a 4age stock burst my ass by 2 car lengths... I wonder if my dream 7afte would kick his ass.
Maybe he thought he had a 4A-GE, but it was the 4A-FE or something. Or maybe he just really couldn't drive. >tongue.gif>

Where's St. Lucia?

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-Coomer+Dec 14, 2004 - 5:42 PM
QUOTE(Coomer @ Dec 14, 2004 - 5:42 PM)
Maybe he thought he had a 4A-GE, but it was the 4A-FE or something. Or maybe he just really couldn't drive. >tongue.gif>

Where's St. Lucia?
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lol it is a blacktop 4age and the fuel pump isnt making enough pressure so when u rev it hard it drops the revs before picking up slowly. St. Lucia is below Martinique, above st. vincent and to the left of barbados in the Caribbean. 14N, 61.5W.
haha yes i know it requires belts and pulleys *my best friend has a very nice lightning* and i've been aquanted with SC for awhile >wink.gif>

but belts and pullys are relativly simple to do
I can imagine without anyone telling u exactly what dimension pulley's to use, figuring out sizes for amount of boost would be incredibly difficult without wasting money and testing out different variations... I could be wrong though...