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Time for a bump.
This is a pic of the E153 rear tranny mount location. Now I see 3 bolts, the ST205 mount wont fit the top 2 bolts, but looks to fit on the bottom 2 bolts. By the looks of it the top 2 are used, the bottom's not. So which ones are too be used?
And Celica3sgte, your rear mount may not line up because your using a GT front mount, if you used the ST205 front mount the rear mount might line up properly.
This is a pic of the E153 rear tranny mount location. Now I see 3 bolts, the ST205 mount wont fit the top 2 bolts, but looks to fit on the bottom 2 bolts. By the looks of it the top 2 are used, the bottom's not. So which ones are too be used?
And Celica3sgte, your rear mount may not line up because your using a GT front mount, if you used the ST205 front mount the rear mount might line up properly.
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I'm so glad XAt is doinf this for me. i don't think i could handle the headache of all of this at this point.
and i sure hope they know what they are doing/talking about.
and i sure hope they know what they are doing/talking about.
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Has anybody tried using a GT front mount & LH mount with ST205 rear mount & bracket?
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-celica3sgte+Jun 13, 2005 - 4:05 PM
What rear mount combination were you attempting when you did this?
QUOTE(celica3sgte @ Jun 13, 2005 - 4:05 PM)
94-99 celica gt front motor mount
I don't have a back mount. The mount bolts to the tranny, but the insulator is almost 1 1/2" off to the side so it doens't line up.
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I don't have a back mount. The mount bolts to the tranny, but the insulator is almost 1 1/2" off to the side so it doens't line up.
[right][snapback]298484[/snapback][/right]
What rear mount combination were you attempting when you did this?
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ok ok ok god this is hard to comprehend all this because its all spread out. anyways i have a 94 celica ST and just bought a 92 i believe all-trac front clip. can someone please post a complete list of axles, mounts, linkage, and all other things for a 91 mr2 turbo tranny, with the engine and car i have. if someone could do that it would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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well the easiest and probably the best way in terms of the mounts would be to get all ST205 mounts..including the passengers side so everything would align right. i've heard that u can use GT front/GT passengers, mr2 turbo drivers, and custom the rear but i didnt get a confirmation on how that would align. i've heard GT shift linkage works but id rather put the money in GT4 linkages just to be sure. for the axles, easiest way would be to get custom axles...lol...but thats too expensive. i got quoted like 400 per axle. cheaper alternative is to get alltrac outers with mr2 turbo tranny inners (preferably the same axles that the tranny came with as to not mixup LSD/non LSD) and get a spacer made for the short axle problem on the passengers side. i've talked with steve about it and he says that since he's using all st205 mounts and not using his custom spacer, he hasnt popped an axle since. and of course ur going to have to get the stuff so u can convert the mr2 tranny for fwd use. im probably missing some other stuff but im sure others will add in
bboy
QUOTE(6G94celica @ Dec 16, 2006 - 5:16 AM) [snapback]510903[/snapback]
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ok ok ok god this is hard to comprehend all this because its all spread out. anyways i have a 94 celica ST and just bought a 92 i believe all-trac front clip. can someone please post a complete list of axles, mounts, linkage, and all other things for a 91 mr2 turbo tranny, with the engine and car i have. if someone could do that it would be greatly appreciated. thanks
ok ok ok god this is hard to comprehend all this because its all spread out. anyways i have a 94 celica ST and just bought a 92 i believe all-trac front clip. can someone please post a complete list of axles, mounts, linkage, and all other things for a 91 mr2 turbo tranny, with the engine and car i have. if someone could do that it would be greatly appreciated. thanks
well the easiest and probably the best way in terms of the mounts would be to get all ST205 mounts..including the passengers side so everything would align right. i've heard that u can use GT front/GT passengers, mr2 turbo drivers, and custom the rear but i didnt get a confirmation on how that would align. i've heard GT shift linkage works but id rather put the money in GT4 linkages just to be sure. for the axles, easiest way would be to get custom axles...lol...but thats too expensive. i got quoted like 400 per axle. cheaper alternative is to get alltrac outers with mr2 turbo tranny inners (preferably the same axles that the tranny came with as to not mixup LSD/non LSD) and get a spacer made for the short axle problem on the passengers side. i've talked with steve about it and he says that since he's using all st205 mounts and not using his custom spacer, he hasnt popped an axle since. and of course ur going to have to get the stuff so u can convert the mr2 tranny for fwd use. im probably missing some other stuff but im sure others will add in
bboy
..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi..
Bboy is correct. The st205 front insulator and mount, the driver's side insulator, and passenger side insulator mount are basically the same. You need to use the rear inuslator from the st205 or get a custom bracket to fit you stock insulator. The rear brackets need to be from the st205, st185, or mr2 turbo. Bboy is right on the axles too. I think you can use the solara axles on the mr2 tranny also being that they are both and e153. And I think you can use the mr2 diff in the solara tranny.
This post has been edited by celica3sgte: Dec 17, 2006 - 6:33 PM
This post has been edited by celica3sgte: Dec 17, 2006 - 6:33 PM
ok so are all the mounts that are able to be used the same for GT and ST or do you need to like drill new holes or something in the crossmember to make the mounts work, (or weld) and also on the 91-92 st185 engine and 91 mr2 tranny use the st205 mounts. so basically all mounts needed should be st205
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Does anyone know how I can find some ST205 shift cables and ST185 levers for a reasonable price?
QUOTE (Consynx @ Jun 14, 2005 - 1:28 AM) 
>we're getting many different combos, this is a summary of what i've read so far.
here, i'll try to sum it all up, up until here:
-For Axles it's looking like Camry(91)/GT4 Outers and MR2(match yr w/ tranny) inners
-For Mounts, stock GT will work for front and rear, just need driver's mount from GT4
-For Shifter Linkage - GT4
-For Shift Cables - GT/GT4
this is just a summary.
here, i'll try to sum it all up, up until here:
-For Axles it's looking like Camry(91)/GT4 Outers and MR2(match yr w/ tranny) inners
-For Mounts, stock GT will work for front and rear, just need driver's mount from GT4
-For Shifter Linkage - GT4
-For Shift Cables - GT/GT4
this is just a summary.
Does anyone know how I can find some ST205 shift cables and ST185 levers for a reasonable price?
FML
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
i bought a tranny...the sellers claims its from a celica and with LSD.....e56 maybe?
by looking at the tranny i can tell its an E153, big shaft and big axles...the prob is it an LSD, 1, 1.5 or 2 way...
I've also bought a V6 Camry axles believed to be from MCV21....the outer axles couldn't go into my ST205 GT4 hub....the inner ones are ok....any input?
help appreciated
This post has been edited by zeus83: Mar 9, 2011 - 6:46 AM
by looking at the tranny i can tell its an E153, big shaft and big axles...the prob is it an LSD, 1, 1.5 or 2 way...
I've also bought a V6 Camry axles believed to be from MCV21....the outer axles couldn't go into my ST205 GT4 hub....the inner ones are ok....any input?
help appreciated
This post has been edited by zeus83: Mar 9, 2011 - 6:46 AM
update....
after getting the MCV21 V6 Camry outer shafts....here is the problem faced.....
Will ST185 Passenger side shaft solve the prob?
THX!
after getting the MCV21 V6 Camry outer shafts....here is the problem faced.....
Will ST185 Passenger side shaft solve the prob?
THX!
a lot of guys need spacers. pretty sure those 2 axles are the same length too...
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
then why do a majority still recommend the ST185 Outers?? just wondering...
btw, any pix of ur axle with the spacers?
btw, any pix of ur axle with the spacers?
apparenty they are different, just checked w/ toyota. i'd try the 185 outer then. autozone carries them btw 
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
problem finally SOLVED! went to the junkyard and showed them a full passenger side MR2T Axle and asked them for a longer one....and guess wat, they found a full axle....outer looks like our GT ones, but the inners are meant for the E153 trannyyy....prblem solved with NO SPACERS!
btw, did ur E53 tranny come with a mech speedo sensor?
btw, did ur E53 tranny come with a mech speedo sensor?
no its an electronic one. it came from a lexus, so im not sure about the camry version
This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Mar 12, 2011 - 1:39 PM
This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Mar 12, 2011 - 1:39 PM
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
mine came with the mech type...cld be JDM version....
has anyone changed a cv axel and bought one at oreileys, i did today and it doesnt have hole for the cotter pin. maybe the wrong one, or what?
mr2 tranny into celi = PITA
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Time for a bump.
This is a pic of the E153 rear tranny mount location. Now I see 3 bolts, the ST205 mount wont fit the top 2 bolts, but looks to fit on the bottom 2 bolts. By the looks of it the top 2 are used, the bottom's not. So which ones are too be used?
And Celica3sgte, your rear mount may not line up because your using a GT front mount, if you used the ST205 front mount the rear mount might line up properly.
This is a pic of the E153 rear tranny mount location. Now I see 3 bolts, the ST205 mount wont fit the top 2 bolts, but looks to fit on the bottom 2 bolts. By the looks of it the top 2 are used, the bottom's not. So which ones are too be used?
And Celica3sgte, your rear mount may not line up because your using a GT front mount, if you used the ST205 front mount the rear mount might line up properly.
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I'm so glad XAt is doinf this for me. i don't think i could handle the headache of all of this at this point.
and i sure hope they know what they are doing/talking about.
and i sure hope they know what they are doing/talking about.
My RX8 2JZ Swap ThreadLink to PicsStatusLow.com,Store,Facebook
Has anybody tried using a GT front mount & LH mount with ST205 rear mount & bracket?
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-celica3sgte+Jun 13, 2005 - 4:05 PM
What rear mount combination were you attempting when you did this?
QUOTE(celica3sgte @ Jun 13, 2005 - 4:05 PM)
94-99 celica gt front motor mount
I don't have a back mount. The mount bolts to the tranny, but the insulator is almost 1 1/2" off to the side so it doens't line up.
[right][snapback]298484[/snapback][/right]
I don't have a back mount. The mount bolts to the tranny, but the insulator is almost 1 1/2" off to the side so it doens't line up.
[right][snapback]298484[/snapback][/right]
What rear mount combination were you attempting when you did this?
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ok ok ok god this is hard to comprehend all this because its all spread out. anyways i have a 94 celica ST and just bought a 92 i believe all-trac front clip. can someone please post a complete list of axles, mounts, linkage, and all other things for a 91 mr2 turbo tranny, with the engine and car i have. if someone could do that it would be greatly appreciated. thanks
>
well the easiest and probably the best way in terms of the mounts would be to get all ST205 mounts..including the passengers side so everything would align right. i've heard that u can use GT front/GT passengers, mr2 turbo drivers, and custom the rear but i didnt get a confirmation on how that would align. i've heard GT shift linkage works but id rather put the money in GT4 linkages just to be sure. for the axles, easiest way would be to get custom axles...lol...but thats too expensive. i got quoted like 400 per axle. cheaper alternative is to get alltrac outers with mr2 turbo tranny inners (preferably the same axles that the tranny came with as to not mixup LSD/non LSD) and get a spacer made for the short axle problem on the passengers side. i've talked with steve about it and he says that since he's using all st205 mounts and not using his custom spacer, he hasnt popped an axle since. and of course ur going to have to get the stuff so u can convert the mr2 tranny for fwd use. im probably missing some other stuff but im sure others will add in
bboy
QUOTE(6G94celica @ Dec 16, 2006 - 5:16 AM) [snapback]510903[/snapback]
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ok ok ok god this is hard to comprehend all this because its all spread out. anyways i have a 94 celica ST and just bought a 92 i believe all-trac front clip. can someone please post a complete list of axles, mounts, linkage, and all other things for a 91 mr2 turbo tranny, with the engine and car i have. if someone could do that it would be greatly appreciated. thanks
ok ok ok god this is hard to comprehend all this because its all spread out. anyways i have a 94 celica ST and just bought a 92 i believe all-trac front clip. can someone please post a complete list of axles, mounts, linkage, and all other things for a 91 mr2 turbo tranny, with the engine and car i have. if someone could do that it would be greatly appreciated. thanks
well the easiest and probably the best way in terms of the mounts would be to get all ST205 mounts..including the passengers side so everything would align right. i've heard that u can use GT front/GT passengers, mr2 turbo drivers, and custom the rear but i didnt get a confirmation on how that would align. i've heard GT shift linkage works but id rather put the money in GT4 linkages just to be sure. for the axles, easiest way would be to get custom axles...lol...but thats too expensive. i got quoted like 400 per axle. cheaper alternative is to get alltrac outers with mr2 turbo tranny inners (preferably the same axles that the tranny came with as to not mixup LSD/non LSD) and get a spacer made for the short axle problem on the passengers side. i've talked with steve about it and he says that since he's using all st205 mounts and not using his custom spacer, he hasnt popped an axle since. and of course ur going to have to get the stuff so u can convert the mr2 tranny for fwd use. im probably missing some other stuff but im sure others will add in
bboy
..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi..
Bboy is correct. The st205 front insulator and mount, the driver's side insulator, and passenger side insulator mount are basically the same. You need to use the rear inuslator from the st205 or get a custom bracket to fit you stock insulator. The rear brackets need to be from the st205, st185, or mr2 turbo. Bboy is right on the axles too. I think you can use the solara axles on the mr2 tranny also being that they are both and e153. And I think you can use the mr2 diff in the solara tranny.
This post has been edited by celica3sgte: Dec 17, 2006 - 6:33 PM
This post has been edited by celica3sgte: Dec 17, 2006 - 6:33 PM
ok so are all the mounts that are able to be used the same for GT and ST or do you need to like drill new holes or something in the crossmember to make the mounts work, (or weld) and also on the 91-92 st185 engine and 91 mr2 tranny use the st205 mounts. so basically all mounts needed should be st205
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Does anyone know how I can find some ST205 shift cables and ST185 levers for a reasonable price?
QUOTE (Consynx @ Jun 14, 2005 - 1:28 AM)
>we're getting many different combos, this is a summary of what i've read so far.
here, i'll try to sum it all up, up until here:
-For Axles it's looking like Camry(91)/GT4 Outers and MR2(match yr w/ tranny) inners
-For Mounts, stock GT will work for front and rear, just need driver's mount from GT4
-For Shifter Linkage - GT4
-For Shift Cables - GT/GT4
this is just a summary.
here, i'll try to sum it all up, up until here:
-For Axles it's looking like Camry(91)/GT4 Outers and MR2(match yr w/ tranny) inners
-For Mounts, stock GT will work for front and rear, just need driver's mount from GT4
-For Shifter Linkage - GT4
-For Shift Cables - GT/GT4
this is just a summary.
Does anyone know how I can find some ST205 shift cables and ST185 levers for a reasonable price?