Hanyo

#1

i've been hearing stories how cars are very easily stolen.

they first pull the cable in the grill to pop the hook. then disconnect the battery. After that, they can by pass the start kill switch with a wire from the battery to the starter. or push start the car.

You really can't do much once your battery is disconnect.

anyways to up the security?

Junior

#2

best way to prevent your car from getting stolen is to get a fuel pump cut switch and install it in a hidden place. The car will not start unless you flip the switch to the on position. Cost of the mod will be $10.

bloodrain

#3

could always just take off your wheels every time you park it, lol

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-Junior+Apr 5, 2005 - 7:37 PM

QUOTE(Junior @ Apr 5, 2005 - 7:37 PM)

best way to prevent your car from getting stolen is to get a fuel pump cut switch and install it in a hidden place.  The car will not start unless you flip the switch to the on position.  Cost of the mod will be $10.
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You can use a relay to do the same thing...then you don't have to deal with a switch.

You can also use a clutch switch kill switch/relay.

You can also install a hood pin so that as soon as your hood pops, the alarm goes off.

You can re-route the hood cable.

You can buy a hood lock.

Use battery-backup sirens and a battery backup on the brain.

Leave the car in gear, get a tilt sensor...it makes it harder to steal your car with a tow truck.

Get a quick release steering wheel and take the wheel off when you go somewhere.

Get multiple sirens, some horns(like 10 >>) from junkyard cars, and hook them all up. Make it so that your car will be heard for miles.

There are lots of ways to make a car secure. If a thief really wants your car though, they'll get it. It's all about layers of security though. If you make it hard to break into your car, chances are the thief will move on to the next car that's easier to take.

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danny_t82

#5

Never tested it and haven't installed any extra alarm gear but i'm pretty sure the alarm goes off if the bonet is popped without disarming the alarm, same as if you try to open the boot..... (not sure whether this standard tho). I read somewhere too, probably here, that you can tell what set the alarm off by the way one of the ignition lights flashes?!

Dan T

danny_t82

#6

By the way before you start laughin at me again, bonet is brit lingo for hood!!! >>

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Coomer

#7

Dan,
That's all alarm/install dependent.

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Hanyo

#8

even if the alarm goes off.. it doesnt take much time for them to disconnect the battery. most alarms that get installed by shops put the fuses right next to the battery. So if the theft wanted they could just pull out the fuse and the car alarm is gone.

most alarms are disarmed when the battery is reconnected. So car securtiy is pretty crappy.

Both my friends integras got stolen with alarms.

Coomer

#9

That's why you get battery backups, and mount them so that they're well hidden, along with the brain, which should also be well hidden. And hide multiple battery-backup sirens too.

Did your friends have battery backup stuff and fuel pump and clutch switch kills?

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Digndoug

#10

MNot top mention that the door locks can be poped with a coat hanger in 30 seconds.. So very sad..

Also my Alarm is giving me all sorts of greaf .. stupid remote and stupid compant for not warnting the warnty.. basterds i tell you. >>

Hanyo

#11

no my friend didnt have a too tricked out alarm.. it was a stock integra gsr, nothing too impressive.

coomer you need to tell me how you hooked up those back up battery sirens.

i'm having problems figuring them out.

soltrain

#12

I've always wanted to do this but don't know if I have the guts to try it:

DIY Car Immobilizer (Autospeed)

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=0059&P=1
pretty version:
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_0059/printArticle.html

Here's some links for honda guys who did it:
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=791686
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=30209

Coomer

#13

I wouldn't want to have to carry a magnet around on my keychain every time I wanted to start the car. I'd rather use fuel pump, starter, clutch switch, and ECU power kills with relays and not worry about the magnet thing.

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madmods

#14

I got to agree with what coomer is saying, and alarm tech is getting real good these days. I would also recommend the brake lock and the auto taser. Hood locks are a very cheap option.

If your going to drop money into your car alarm it.

Coomer

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-madmods+Apr 7, 2005 - 5:15 PM

QUOTE(madmods @ Apr 7, 2005 - 5:15 PM)

I got to agree with what coomer is saying, and alarm tech is getting real good these days. I would also recommend the brake lock and the auto taser. Hood locks are a very cheap option.

If your going to drop money into your car alarm it.
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What's the auto taser consist of? Tasing whoever touches your car?

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Drocay

#16

well if a auto taser is wut i saw the other day in the audio shop, it sends 100 volts through the steering wheel.

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Hanyo

#17

i have a feeling 100 volts is no good for an airbag.

Terzin1

#18

100 volts through the steering wheel would be illegal. that guy could sue the **** out of you.

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-Terzin1+Apr 17, 2005 - 4:34 PM

QUOTE(Terzin1 @ Apr 17, 2005 - 4:34 PM)

100 volts through the steering wheel would be illegal.  that guy could sue the **** out of you.
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Just put a warning on the steering wheels that says "stealing this car may be hazardous to your health"

praetor

#20

I agree - its all just level's of security. If someone really wants it they'll tow it.

Personally I have the factory alarm which in Aus includes a microwave sensor and backup battery. Microwave sensor means if you stand next to the car for to long it will sound a warning and if anything is put in the car (ie person) alarm instantly goes off. The alarm is fairly loud - loud enough for me to hear when its parked at home.

I also put in a secondary immobaliser which is seperate from the factory system. It works on RFID, I just carry the RFID card with me and it turns off when I get in the car - no switches or anything. Its wired into several very hard to get places, lets just say if you were going to drive my car away it would take you awhile.

If you interested the RFID kit can be found here - Jaycar Electronics

Coomer

#21

-praetor+Apr 26, 2005 - 1:03 AM

QUOTE(praetor @ Apr 26, 2005 - 1:03 AM)

I agree - its all just level's of security. If someone really wants it they'll tow it.

Personally I have the factory alarm which in Aus includes a microwave sensor and backup battery. Microwave sensor means if you stand next to the car for to long it will sound a warning and if anything is put in the car (ie person) alarm instantly goes off.  The alarm is fairly loud - loud enough for me to hear when its parked at home.

I also put in a secondary immobaliser which is seperate from the factory system. It works on RFID, I just carry the RFID card with me and it turns off when I get in the car - no switches or anything.  Its wired into several very hard to get places, lets just say if you were going to drive my car away it would take you awhile.

If you interested the RFID kit can be found here - Jaycar Electronics
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What kind of car do you have? I know sixth gen. Celicas never came with any factory-option alarm system like that.

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praetor

#22

-Coomer+Apr 26, 2005 - 6:07 PM

QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 26, 2005 - 6:07 PM)

What kind of car do you have? I know sixth gen. Celicas never came with any factory-option alarm system like that.
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They do in Australia...dont know if that means we have a higher crime rate or what... But yeh, I've got a 96' ZR and it has a factory alarm that comes with a microwave sensor. (have the toyota manual to prove it to!)

StreetRacing10PS...

#23

Clifford makes an alarm system that when the hood is popped, the alarm goes off. But when you pop the hood, all you have to do is disconnect the neg. battery terminal and it shuts off, cut some wires, splice some wires, reconnect the battery and start it up. no car is really safe if some one who knows what they are doing gets a hold of it.

Hanyo

#24

all car alarms have the hood pin option. so if you pop the hood the alarm will go off.

that is why you hook up power to the steering colume.

Coomer

#25

-StreetRacing10PSI+Apr 26, 2005 - 6:34 AM

QUOTE(StreetRacing10PSI @ Apr 26, 2005 - 6:34 AM)

Clifford makes an alarm system that when the hood is popped, the alarm goes off. But when you pop the hood, all you have to do is disconnect the neg. battery terminal and it shuts off, cut some wires, splice some wires, reconnect the battery and start it up. no car is really safe if some one who knows what they are doing gets a hold of it.
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Have you actually read this thread? >>

Battery backups, hood locks, etc. will help a lot.

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king_wsk

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-Coomer+Apr 5, 2005 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 5, 2005 - 11:45 PM)

Get multiple sirens, some horns(like 10 >>) from junkyard cars, and hook them all up. Make it so that your car will be heard for miles.
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I did almost exactly that.... I purchased 6 super high pitch pain generators 120dB sirens for $5 each off ebay. =P I want to wire them up to my existing alarm system and implement a battery backup and hood switch/lock system. I'll let you know when I get around to installing all of this protection and get some numbers on how far I can hear the sirens from.....

I also am looking at getting a two-way alarm system, but I don't want the super sensitive motion detector to be wired up with the insane pain generators (which, thankfully, my existing arm doesn't have a sensor)....

This post has been edited by king_wsk: Apr 27, 2005 - 1:11 AM

chicklover345

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You can also use a KEYPAD

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praetor

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-chicklover345+Apr 28, 2005 - 3:22 PM

QUOTE(chicklover345 @ Apr 28, 2005 - 3:22 PM)

You can also use a KEYPAD
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By far the best from of security, as long as its built into the ECU, if its a standalone unit then its only as effective as any other type of kill switch.

madmods

#29

-Coomer+Apr 8, 2005 - 3:24 AM

QUOTE(Coomer @ Apr 8, 2005 - 3:24 AM)

-madmods+Apr 7, 2005 - 5:15 PM

QUOTE(madmods @ Apr 7, 2005 - 5:15 PM)

I got to agree with what coomer is saying, and alarm tech is getting real good these days. I would also recommend the brake lock and the auto taser. Hood locks are a very cheap option.

If your going to drop money into your car alarm it.
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What's the auto taser consist of? Tasing whoever touches your car?
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Auto taser is a club, which has a built in alarm and shoots electric current like a stun gun through out it. It is very powerful as I tried to grab it once after a few drinks. it hurt like hell. It also doubles up as a good club for personal security, as its vert strong and thick. You can find them on ebay.