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Bigmeanbulldog55

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-turboinduction+Apr 16, 2005 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 16, 2005 - 12:14 PM)

-thedevilmaycrie+Apr 15, 2005 - 3:43 PM

QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Apr 15, 2005 - 3:43 PM)

ti- both are still being made please remember that the tc is a celica
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I hope thats a joke

The Tc is a US-built car only. Celica is gone.

-Ti
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Yes, but what engine's are they using?

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red_94gts

#32

-Bigmeanbulldog55+Apr 16, 2005 - 4:41 PM

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 16, 2005 - 4:41 PM)

-turboinduction+Apr 16, 2005 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 16, 2005 - 12:14 PM)

-thedevilmaycrie+Apr 15, 2005 - 3:43 PM

QUOTE(thedevilmaycrie @ Apr 15, 2005 - 3:43 PM)

ti- both are still being made please remember that the tc is a celica
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I hope thats a joke

The Tc is a US-built car only. Celica is gone.

-Ti
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Yes, but what engine's are they using?
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not the celica engine

ghostdog

#33

its not the 5sfe but its still a camry engine. besides the 7g was a complete redesign and that was still a celica, tho I am still undecided as to the tc being a celi

-red_94gts+Apr 16, 2005 - 4:07 PM

QUOTE(red_94gts @ Apr 16, 2005 - 4:07 PM)

not the celica engine
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darksecret

#34

-turboinduction+Apr 15, 2005 - 4:57 PM

QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 15, 2005 - 4:57 PM)

-Bigmeanbulldog55+Apr 15, 2005 - 9:24 AM

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Apr 15, 2005 - 9:24 AM)

Are you actually going to call the american celica a sports car? I think if it's a sports car it shouldn't get outrun by almost everything on the road. And I'm not talking about my personal driving skills, I'm talking about the numbers. Unless you go for the 3S swap, or do a turbo, you have nothing. I don't care if the car does handle well. I have a 94 GT with the sports supension package, and I must admit it does handle very nice, but handling will only get you so far.
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I completely agree. The Celica isn't a sports car. Its a sporty compact. And run for run (as used in an example eariler) a stock Celica GT and a stock Civic EX are about equal in speed. Celica out handles, Civic out gas-pumps. And please understand that the Celica isn't a UBER-performer on the track stock. Yes it handles nice, but its no Evo. Now, you can boast about handling if you have a Mazda, but just take the good with this car. And the honda D16=bad people. OMG. Wake up buddies. The D16 is 10 times the engine the 5S wants to be. I have to agree that the ignorant "hondas suck" response is childlike in so many ways. And I dont even like Hondas!!!!

And to reinstate my thought - which of the two cars is still being made?

-Ti
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I dont know if tC stands for Toyota Celica but it is the new Celica, Scion is trying to be Toyotas new sports line. I would hate to see what a tC can do to the new Si because there isn't much to the Civic. I know from experience that the new Si is extremely over rated.

Consynx

#35

lol, Jack...im guessing that was the old civic hatchback that was boosted.
thing sure did fly around the bends...

could have been the mini though, the course was very tight

95CelicaST

#36

The only way a civic engine is any good is to find yourself a nice 1970's Mini Cooper, and build the SH*T out of that.... we'll say b18c5 (type-R i believe, i wouldnt know as i dont care too much).. after your engine is built then throw it in the Mini (they have a b16 conversion kit) now what you have is a badas* little car. It weighs less, and therefore has more useable HP. The crappy thing about our Celi's is that they weigh so much, so our HP is too busy just trying to move its own fat as*... could you imagine a 3S in a Mini...... that would turn me on....

Matt

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Mr2_Joel

#37

a 3s in any car gets me excited >

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turboinduction

#38

-darksecret+Apr 18, 2005 - 9:57 AM

QUOTE(darksecret @ Apr 18, 2005 - 9:57 AM)

I dont know if tC stands for Toyota Celica but it is the new Celica, Scion is trying to be Toyotas new sports line. I would hate to see what a tC can do to the new Si because there isn't much to the Civic. I know from experience that the new Si is extremely over rated.
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Whoops, stand corrected.

What do I know - Its not like I work in the automotive industry.

Scion is NOT the SPORTS CAR Line. The next Supra wont be a Scion. The next Altezza is still badged an IS. Scions (ex. Tc) share their engines with the Toyota Echo. Yea, real sports cars there. They are cheap college cars. Get it right. The Tc is a 3000lb 160HP 2.4L cheap car. Its not a Celica. Its not replacing the Celica. Its not even built in Japan. Tc doesn't have to mean Toyota Celica. Could mean Toyota Coupe. The Coupe. True Coupe. Toyota Car. Hell, Tc is endless. Stop being silly people, and please please stop acting as if Mr. Toyota is your next door neighbor and gives you inside info we all dont know.

If you'd like to prove me wrong - find one article that says the Tc is a replacment to the Celica. Thanks.

EDIT: I sale Hondas. The Si is lightweight and also is 160. It eats the Tc up. And the new Si (2006) shares its beautiful design with the current RSX-S. So expect a coupe with 200+ ponies. Then again... not much to em' (blah!)

-Ti

This post has been edited by turboinduction: Apr 18, 2005 - 8:54 PM

darksecret

#39

To answer you're comment on the tC vs. Si read the Car and Driver test and even though the tC is heavy it's almost as fast as the IS. I found that much on 1 minute of searching. The Si isn't much faster than a lightly modded 6th Gen GT, I know for a fact and from 70 up that extra gear doesn't help the Si's that I run against.

I also didn't say Sports Car line I said sports line i.e car, compact, probably utility vehicle at their rate.

2 minutes of searching and I got Motortrend

http://motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_05...ng/index21.html

Oh yeah and the Supra is not really a Supra, it's a Lexus (Toyotas excuse for raising the price on their cars) from what's going around the automotive world. Now Motortrend and Car and Driver aren't Mr. Toyota, but they aren't just any opinion.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Apr 19, 2005 - 10:19 AM

darksecret

#40

Hey DMC you could always tell him to build the motor up and keep the body completely stock, since everyone with a Honda thinks they need to put a friggin trash can under the rear bumper, he might be able to suprise some people with a fast car that sounds stock and looks plain. If he goes with that route just try not to put a big muffler or whatever Honda guys do, the Civic has about the worst sound of any import I know of, that high pitch 2 cycle weed eater sound.

Bigmeanbulldog55

#41

-darksecret+Apr 19, 2005 - 3:37 PM

QUOTE(darksecret @ Apr 19, 2005 - 3:37 PM)

Hey DMC you could always tell him to build the motor up and keep the body completely stock, since everyone with a Honda thinks they need to put a friggin trash can under the rear bumper, he might be able to suprise some people with a fast car that sounds stock and looks plain. If he goes with that route just try not to put a big muffler or whatever Honda guys do, the Civic has about the worst sound of any import I know of, that high pitch 2 cycle weed eater sound.
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I'm all for the sleeper man. But what's with not liking the sound? I love that high piched sound. Of course, I did grow up racing 2 stroke dirtbikes. Mazda also sounds real high piched, espesially the 2.8 (I think) V6. At least the one I heard was.

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darksecret

#42

It's mostly just opinion but if you go for a sleeper someone can tell you're coming from a mile away with a bigger exhaust, also the biggest mistake people make is thinking the bigger the exhaust the better the performance so they put a 3-4 inch exhaust on a N/A car. Unless you are planning on a single exhaust V8 or turbo anything over 2 1/2 will be a waste and the stock exhaust shouldn't hinder N/A perfromance much at all, ultimate sleeper can run circles around a Vette but the Vette driver would never think it. As far as my preference I have a 2" that sounds like an I6, when at idle it's pretty calm but bringing it past 4000 it sounds nice and deep.

darksecret

#43

On the sports car thing, the only imports in the Celica's class that can come close to being sports cars are the Miata and the Prelude, Civics and Eclipses aren't really sporty enough they don't have that RWD looking stance I guess. Just because the Celica gets beat by a lot of cars on the road doesn't mean it can't hold it's own, the 5S is under powered but it still runs with or outruns the competition (I personally believe they should have at least had enough to beat out the Si in straight line performance). The Celica runs well against Neons, Eclipse RS/GS, Civic EX, and lesser Preludes, think of the early 80's Vette it was a sports car but it could get owned by most of the cars on the road, it really didn't have good handling it only had 200HP coming out of a V8, it was junk compared to most Vettes but it looked like a Vette so it was still a sports car. Just because a car can't run with 200+HP cars doesn't mean it isn't a sports car, it just means that Toyota yanked the engine out and slapped an economy engine in it.

95sweetness

#44

-turboinduction+Apr 19, 2005 - 1:51 AM

QUOTE(turboinduction @ Apr 19, 2005 - 1:51 AM)

-darksecret+Apr 18, 2005 - 9:57 AM

QUOTE(darksecret @ Apr 18, 2005 - 9:57 AM)

I dont know if tC stands for Toyota Celica but it is the new Celica, Scion is trying to be Toyotas new sports line. I would hate to see what a tC can do to the new Si because there isn't much to the Civic. I know from experience that the new Si is extremely over rated.
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Whoops, stand corrected.

What do I know - Its not like I work in the automotive industry.

Scion is NOT the SPORTS CAR Line. The next Supra wont be a Scion. The next Altezza is still badged an IS. Scions (ex. Tc) share their engines with the Toyota Echo. Yea, real sports cars there. They are cheap college cars. Get it right. The Tc is a 3000lb 160HP 2.4L cheap car. Its not a Celica. Its not replacing the Celica. Its not even built in Japan. Tc doesn't have to mean Toyota Celica. Could mean Toyota Coupe. The Coupe. True Coupe. Toyota Car. Hell, Tc is endless. Stop being silly people, and please please stop acting as if Mr. Toyota is your next door neighbor and gives you inside info we all dont know.

If you'd like to prove me wrong - find one article that says the Tc is a replacment to the Celica. Thanks.

EDIT: I sale Hondas. The Si is lightweight and also is 160. It eats the Tc up. And the new Si (2006) shares its beautiful design with the current RSX-S. So expect a coupe with 200+ ponies. Then again... not much to em' (blah!)

-Ti
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dude i saw video of a stock si vs a tc wit an axle back...the tc RAPES the si ...i mean it was brutal..ill try n find the video. Yes i no the potential of the si. My friend ran a boosted ep3 wit rev hard kit n ran a 13.1 wit a ****ty driver n a broken motor mount. he recently sold that kit n bout a cybernation kit for the k20a2 (rsx type s ?). now hes waitin for the rsx engine >

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madmods

#45

take him out!

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