lagos

#1

swapers i need your help
hey

i was trying to figure out why my car pulls to one side... so i took my passengers side axel out and notice that the axel bearing bracket has 3 holes for bolts, but only 2 of them line up. is this the same problem for everyone or maybe im trying to use the wrong bracket?

the car is

90 3sgte motor
98 gt trans and axels.

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Digndoug

#2

its prolly cause you have 1 wheel drive, my car does that with no power when i hit the gas. its just some nasty trq stear, thats one reason why Im thinking away fromt he swap.

shid

#3

-Digndoug+Jun 1, 2005 - 1:55 AM

QUOTE(Digndoug @ Jun 1, 2005 - 1:55 AM)

its prolly cause you have 1 wheel drive, my car does that with no power when i hit the gas. its just some nasty trq stear, thats one reason why Im thinking away fromt he swap.
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Lagos has reported this problem before and confirmed it is not the 1 wheel wonder acting up

lagos

#4

i think i figured out why its doing it...ill know when everything is back together and i can drive the car.

but i would still like to hear back from swapers to see how theirs is...

This post has been edited by lagos: May 31, 2005 - 9:57 PM

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FAQdaWorld

#5

ahhhh. the beauty of lsd >>

This post has been edited by FAQdaWorld: May 31, 2005 - 10:33 PM

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Defgeph

#6

This happens in my civic as well.

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lagos

#7

this has nothing to do with lsd.

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FAQdaWorld

#8

Actually, it has a lot to do w/ it. I'm just playing in that w/ my swap I will have lsd, while most other swappers out there wont have it. Essentially w/o lsd your car is gonna be one wheel drive, and thus the reason for pulling to one side. Unless I am vastly mistaken?

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jgreening

#9

-FAQdaWorld+Jun 1, 2005 - 2:42 AM

QUOTE(FAQdaWorld @ Jun 1, 2005 - 2:42 AM)

Actually, it has a lot to do w/ it. I'm just playing in that w/ my swap I will have lsd, while most other swappers out there wont have it. Essentially w/o lsd your car is gonna be one wheel drive, and thus the reason for pulling to one side. Unless I am vastly mistaken?
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one wheel drive?....ah, no. open differential cars will spin both tires so long as one is not slipping. Having a differential that is not locked is also integral to turning.

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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.

Supersprynt

#10

Everyone jumps on the tq steer to quickly. Its not tq steer, it happens while he's already moving on the highway and stuff. Theres not enough tq up there to do that. I have 2 bolts in my bearing support and mines not doing it.

And yoru car is not 1wd. At low low speeds 1 wheel moves first before the other wheel starts, thats why you have tq steer, but it only lasts for a second or so, then both are moving.

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lagos

#11

you know what.......you guys can just go to hell.

every single day i get a PM or IM from someone on this site that decided they needed my help and i take the time to help them. now that i need some feedback from people, all i get is "you dont know what youa re talking about, its because you dont have lsd" .... sorry, but thats not the problem im trying to solve. my question is to other swapers and how they handeled the axel bearing bracket on the passengers side of the car

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presure2

#12

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every single day i get a PM or IM from someone on this site that decided they needed my help and i take the time to help them. now that i need some feedback from people, all i get is "you dont know what youa re talking about, its because you dont have lsd" .... sorry, but thats not the problem im trying to solve. my question is to other swapers and how they handeled the axel bearing bracket on the passengers side of the car

i feel you art.
you know my thoughts on your pulling problem, thats the only reason i havent posted here.

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BLADDER_MASTER

#13

Are you talking about this?



On the top is a ST202 axle and on the bottom is a ST184 axle.

mark_426

#14

I have two lined up, 92 motor, 96 tranny and body.

However, I dont notice any torque steer and the sort...

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If anyone needs interior stuff, etc, I'm parting whats left of my celi out. Just ask.

lagos

#15

BLADDER_MASTER, see that bracket on th st184 axel? can u take a close up of the holes on it for me?



mark_426, thank u. this is all helping me track down the cause of this problem..... on your passengers side motor mount, the way our mount connects to the 3sgte, do you have 2 bolts or 3 on that?

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BLADDER_MASTER

#16

-lagos+Jun 1, 2005 - 6:13 PM

QUOTE(lagos @ Jun 1, 2005 - 6:13 PM)

BLADDER_MASTER, see that bracket on th st184 axel? can u take a close up of the holes on it for me?



mark_426, thank u.  this is all helping me track down the cause of this problem.....      on your passengers side motor mount, the way our mount connects to the 3sgte, do you have 2 bolts or 3 on that?
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Sorry but I can't. I ended up throwing away the axle. But I can tell you one thing for sure, the brackets from both axles are different. I'ma go out right now to see if I can take a picture of my 3S-GE Celica and 5S-FE Celica to see if it helps out.

*Edit*
After attempting to snap a picture of the axle without lifting the car, I was unsuccessful. I'll try to get the car lifted as soon as I can.

This post has been edited by BLADDER_MASTER: Jun 1, 2005 - 7:04 PM

lagos

#17

thank u

all i really need to know is.....if you look at that axel bracket, the part that bolts to the block, are all 3 bolt holes in a straight vertical row, or are there 2 holes on one side and one hole ofset to the other side.

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BLADDER_MASTER

#18

-lagos+Jun 1, 2005 - 7:09 PM

QUOTE(lagos @ Jun 1, 2005 - 7:09 PM)

thank u

all i really need to know is.....if you look at that axel bracket, the part that bolts to the block, are all 3 bolt holes in a straight vertical row, or are there 2 holes on one side and one hole ofset to the other side.
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Well if you're wondering about the bracket on the 3S-GE, here's a pic:



It's the best pic I got. For the 5S-FE, I still have to take a pic of it.

Jdog1385

#19

can you take a pic of the bracket thats already on your car lagos. i need a good visual of it. thats how i work...lol

lagos

#20

BLADDER_MASTER.... hmm, that looks just like my 5s bracket. one bolt on the left and 2 on the right.

but on the 3sgte block the 3 holes are perfeclty vertical

This post has been edited by lagos: Jun 1, 2005 - 8:18 PM

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lagos

#21

here is a general axel question....

i bought a new axel for the right side, it has the bearing on it, but not part of the bracket that goes around the axel bearing. i talked to a few people about it and some of them told me that their new axels came with a new bearing bracket on there and some told me that i need to have my old one pressed out and put on the new axel. anyone know else have to deal with having to swap in the old bracket on the new bearing?

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mark_426

#22

i had to swap the old bracket onto the new bearing

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lagos

#23

mark_426, how did u take the old bracket off the old bearing?

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CelicaST18

#24

is it possible that there is an alignment problem?? incorrect toe/caster/camber can cause the tires to follow grooves in the road, making the car pullto one side

This post has been edited by CelicaST18: Jun 2, 2005 - 4:55 PM

lagos

#25

CelicaST18 ...no all that has been checked at least 3 times. i believe the problem come from that axel bearing, and also how i have the passengers side motor mount hooked up.... once i take care of those 2 issues, (praying) the problem will go away.

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