there has been a lot of speculation about the apple announcement to move to intel processors and this article was a really interesting read

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050609.html

just wanna know what everyone thinks - i personnally can't wait to have a dual boot OSX / windows machine - i just hope apple takes into consideration amd sooner or later

This post has been edited by reborn0323: Jun 10, 2005 - 4:20 PM

Its neat. I'm a huge apple guy. I really don't know what this will mean for users. A little easier for software companies to port to mac. I don't know if this will mean that machines will be able to dual boot. Both windows and macintosh will still have a lot of hardware specific parts in the OS, so just having a common chip will not mean that one machine can run two systems. There would have to be a lot of messing with the OS (Apple CEO said that wouldn't be happening) or a computer would have to be built with two hardware sets (which is in theory possible, but very tough) basically a custom set up.

Its interesting, but I don't think its that big of news in the big plan.

well if you think about it - windows is built to run on any 86 compatible hardware right? then build a system for mac specs and by default your windows installation would run on the system - only thing i could think would be boot problems but then you have bootloaders on the market already so problem solved

I dont really know much about apple crap but my guess is that they are trying to convert to more generic parts so that people will consider then when wanting to build a custom box, or just a machine that is easaly upgradable.

an example car guys can understand:

if civic = pc, and celica = apple

take the civic, why is it that so many people fix up civics, there not the ceapest cars (the car itself is not the ceapest i mean) its because of the market, there are millions of parts for them litteraly millions of thing to by at low prices, where cars like ours (6 gens) have very few (in comparison) so in that sence apple wants to try and get in on the huge pc market, if they start using similar parts (interchangable, or close enough that companies like intell, and what not will beable to make parts for then easyer) then they will be walking into a huge market with tons of people, that would now be willing to buy an apple and mod it.

This post has been edited by creis: Jun 11, 2005 - 11:51 AM

-creis+Jun 11, 2005 - 12:50 PM

*sigh* they are switching to intel chips because a) ibm couldn't keep up with demand for g5 chips and b) they weren't able to solve the chips cooling problems for use in laptops

I really think its a shame. I've been using macs since the beginning and switching to intel chips seems like sacriledge. I'm just glad I didn't go out and buy a new mac yet because all the current ones will be obsolete in 2 years

I love APPLE >> My dad is a Mac expert & does computer animation & everything else using nothing but Mac.

the Apple haters out there only call it crap cause they dunno crap about it >>

-ghostdog+Jun 11, 2005 - 11:11 AM

2 things
- ibm could have continued to be the supplier easily but apple would have to change the contract and OS to use ibm's cell processors (ya know the much faster ones now being used in ps3, xbox 360)

- i just hope apple's still in business in a year's time - like the guy said in the article they may have killed themselves by announcing the switch this early cuz people are gonna have that attitude and wait to buy another one til the new ones come out

Currently, apple owns 2% of the computer market. I think that this is a step towards the selling off of macintosh completely; I predict in a few years it will have been bought up and will no longer exist. Intel makes superior processors by far, and there is no arguement there at all. The only thing that macs have going for them right now is their uniqueness. O and btw, now that they've decided that they will be using intel chips, they also made the statement that osx was written with the intel chip in mind... something to think about there...

-CheesyLobster+Jun 11, 2005 - 4:18 PM

actually read an article based on some study the other day - 16% of computers are apple - the 2% figure everyone goes by are sales figures not actual figures of how many users have apples

-CheesyLobster+Jun 11, 2005 - 4:18 PM

I'll argue with that along with most of the experts in the industry and I'll bring stacks of third party benchmarks and test that prove amd outperforms intel in almost every aspect - it's why a lot of people are scratching their heads right now trying to figure out why apple choose intel and not amd

answer - it's not about performance - it's about business and putting a hurt on microsoft - i just hope that apple doesn't help intel put a better, cheaper amd out of business and they come out with support for amd chips too

This post has been edited by reborn0323: Jun 11, 2005 - 6:47 PM

I guess I'll keep this old school 12" PowerBook for another year or 2 till they come up with a Intel powered PowerBook... but could I stand 867MHz for another 2 years??!?!?!?

I mean, if I sell this PowerBook on Craigslist.com or something, I could prolly get myself 10 bills for it, add another 10 bills I could get myself a 15" 1.5GHz PowerBook....

or should I wait? Use that 10 bills to give my Celica a pimp color?.......

i hope my eyes are decieving me...apple moving from RISC processors to crappy intels....u know what this means...no more stable machine...more " memmory allocation error at address x0589658"....worst thing apple ever did letting bill gates buy apple...the end is near >>

if apple were smart they would put a virus in all of their ipods that would totally destroy pc computers...then apple would rule the world >>

im a pc user. its what we use in my architecture firm.

there was a funny video posted on here a while back that was bashing apple

yeah that's true most CAD programs are PC only huh? i know autoCAD is

btw - gt4uk gates doesn't own apple not even controlling interest - this was jobs decision - read the article at the link i posted - the article talks about how this could finally let jobs beat gates

exactly.