-darksecret+Jun 16, 2005 - 6:51 AM

Sorry, I just tried to clarify his choices a little instead of being caught in the middle of a debate. Hopefully somebody will take something from it and the topic will be easier to find answers to for all the GT owners who regularly ask this same question. >>

No prob man I understand, as for Kwanza I understand horsepower is a good thing, believe me, I wasn't saying it's useless or that torque is better, but I did want to say that if you want a highway monster, something for the street/strip increasing the torque would be more important due to the lower rpm gains, now horsepower on the other is great for drifting, drag, or high speed track simply because you can utilize it more often than on the road. The horsepower thing is also why I don't care for Hondas, you've debated with me before and you can tell i'm not stupid when it comes to cars, i'm not a typical hater who says Hondas suck because they get riced, my main reason is because I feel they are overrated, some are quick but like the S2000 it's a track car that is portrayed as a daily driver, it's got a high amount of road noise and a very high peak horsepower rating, the Si in stock form or with mild mods isn't very fast but a lot of Honda guys will defend it until they die, I have legit reasons for not caring for them (also the fact that i'm more into rare cars which the Celica is one of the least common imports). I do like the RSX-S, my Celi (for a 5SFE) is quick but I still can't beat a stock one, i'll give a good run until about 40-50 mph but then they come into their powerband and I lose.

I kind of like debating this with you, i've been a member since March and a viewer since November and I think between us we can write a book on most the details of a car. Well i'm letting the horsepower vs. torque thing go like I said before it has been an ongoing debate for decades and it will go on until it's not a unit of measurement anymore. I didn't mean to offend anyone about the Honda kids thing, I should have added that most of the fast Hondas around here are owned by 17-19 year olds whose parents helped them build them up, which I feel if you're going to talk trash and say you got a 328whp RSX you should have put more than a waiting period at the garage into it, you'll appreciate it much more (it isn't just Honda owners like that either, we got 4 Evos like that also).

BTW I lived on HSW for about a year and even read the book, that's how I know a lot more than the average person, it's a really helpful site for a noob. I would recommend taking notes though, there is a lot of info.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Jun 16, 2005 - 10:23 PM