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Topic #25904 23 posts Started by ArizonaRed
i cant drive a manual. i also heard that automatic kicks a$$ against a manual on a turbo. my brothers friend has an unbeatable tt auto supra down at speedway in tucson.

-97 Celica ST-2001 Celica GTS dk blue mica 100hp per litre(GOT LIFT?)
learn a stick, stick is faster. The only place you might have an advantage with an auto is if you spray.
well i say and auto with enuff power will always beat a human ... but stick so so much fun... but hey if thats what u want to do go for it... i would love to see that done..

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Caldina ?????!!!!!!!

GS GTE 260BHP 4x4 triptonic gear box.......

i asked the question about a year ago !!!!!! it costs maybe $3500 plus from Caldina owner i've heard from the ST 205 can still take them........

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You would need an ECU that can control the transmission. You can't use the caldina tranny because it is AWD.
I meant to ask the same question before. The question is who do you take it to. 10/10 mechanics will say no because they know they pains that go behind swapping a new engine and furthermore know how difficult and annoying it would be to attach auto to the engine.

In my opinion automatic tranny can and will support the engine, with a few modifications that is.

take me and player158
I have ST and he has ST
I have auto 7afe he has manual 7afe

Visually engines look the same and have the same stock HP.

1993-1999 toyota supra comes both manual and auto with same hp.

Many sports performance vehicles, including race cars come with auto transmission.

I think with persistence it is possible to find a mechanic that does it.

I am definetly thinking about swapping and autoing 3sgte

As much as it is fun to drive a stick, Computer controlled tranny with perfect shifting is better performancewise, at least in my opinion.

Captain Pessimist
-yarik83+Jun 17, 2005 - 3:15 PM
QUOTE(yarik83 @ Jun 17, 2005 - 3:15 PM)
I meant to ask the same question before. The question is who do you take it to. 10/10 mechanics will say no because they know they pains that go behind swapping a new engine and furthermore know how difficult and annoying it would be to attach auto to the engine.

In my opinion automatic tranny can and will support the engine, with a few modifications that is.

take me and player158
I have ST and he has ST
I have auto 7afe he has manual 7afe

Visually engines look the same and have the same stock HP.

1993-1999 toyota supra comes both manual and auto with same hp.

Many sports performance vehicles, including race cars come with auto transmission.

I think with persistence it is possible to find a mechanic that does it.

I am definetly thinking about swapping and autoing 3sgte

As much as it is fun to drive a stick, Computer controlled tranny with perfect shifting is better performancewise, at least in my opinion.
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So exactly how do you plan on shifting the auto tranny?
as far as i know the automatic transmission won't be able to handle the power of the 3sgte. the 5sfe manual tranny is already pushing the power of the 3sgte. trust me if your putting the 3sgte you want something that will handle the power and an automatic transmission won't handle it. i know because i have an automatic 5sfte and it won't even grab when i want it to. trust me on this manual transmission is thw way to go.
the case of the automatic being superior to the manual only comes down to really high-end drag racing where you're using an auto that costs like 10k. When it's a low-end tranny like this you're better off learning how to drive a stick than going through the headaches of finding a strong auto and converting the car.

1999 Celica GT
Just get an automatic MR2 Turbo clip and you'll have everything you need. Shouldn't be too hard. By the way, the advantage of an auto is that you don't loose boost between shifts because the throttle plate never closes.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Jun 19, 2005 - 5:45 AM

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
it really does make more sense to learn stick, go to a driving school, pay them $100 and they will teach you everything you need to know, or just do what i did, buy a TT 300zx from an auction, make ur dad drive it home for you, take the keys, and go in the street and play with it. God that car was fast... R.I.P 300zx

This post has been edited by bloodrain: Jun 19, 2005 - 12:52 PM

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just go in a parking lot and learn how the clutch works how much gas to give so it doesnt stall and how fast to come off the clutch...learn the combination thats all u need...it will take a week at the most to learn how to do it all and after a month its no big deal anymore...trust me it will look reallly stupid to have a modded celica with a 3sgte and all that stuff and then an auto tranny
So she wants to know if you could do it or not and how. I feel like I get this sometimes too... Of course she can learn to drive stick, anybody can. A couple of practice lessons and she'll be fine. Maybe she doesn't want to go through the hassle. I know I don't here in Florida, with all the traffic we got. Must be a pain. And a 3S-GTE AUTOMATIC would be kinda cool. There's a guy that goes to the races in Okeechobee here. He has a 900HP Supra TT AUTOMATIC. Damn skippy. And everyone thinks he's the s h i t because he's wooping everyone's ass over there. It's cool because there's no time wasted between shifts. It's like "VrrrrrrrrrmVrrrrrrrrrmVrrrrrrrrrmVrrrrrrrrrmVrrrrrrrrrmVrrrrrrrrrm" instead of "Vrrrrrrrrrm...Vrrrrrrrrrm...Vrrrrrrrrrm...Vrrrrrrrrrm...Vrrrrrrrrrm". That gives him a nice advantage. VERY interesting. But yeah, I can't really give any advice because I don't know much about this, I'm more of show than go...(I have an ST >wink.gif> ) But what I'm trying to say is, let's give more helpful info... This is the only good one I've seen on this post:
-Dr_Tweak+Jun 19, 2005 - 3:44 AM
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jun 19, 2005 - 3:44 AM)
Just get an automatic MR2 Turbo clip and you'll have everything you need. Shouldn't be too hard. By the way, the advantage of an auto is that you don't loose boost between shifts because the throttle plate never closes.
-Doc
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This post has been edited by JoKeRkId613: Jun 19, 2005 - 4:37 PM
mr2 clip on ebay

wish i had the $$ to get this.

-97 Celica ST-2001 Celica GTS dk blue mica 100hp per litre(GOT LIFT?)
arizona, you could get a 2nd gen with 5spd tranny for half the price putting out only about 25hp less
if you want an auto, why do you need the 3s then? If youre doing all city driving and so forth.. why?

Turbo the GT is probably your better bet..

If anyone needs interior stuff, etc, I'm parting whats left of my celi out. Just ask.
-ArizonaRed+Jun 22, 2005 - 12:04 AM
QUOTE(ArizonaRed @ Jun 22, 2005 - 12:04 AM)
mr2 clip on ebay

wish i had the $$ to get this.
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Thats a 3rd gen clip, not 4th gen - and you can get those for about $3500+ shipping.

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woo for rs imports.... thats who i got my clip from ! haha


automatics are only good in high hp cars. on a 3s, you would really want a stick.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
first thing i have to say is.. what is up with you people. Dont sway from the main topic! he wanted to know how well an auto 3s will work. Its the same when people ask about mods. Everyone just flames and throws out the 3s swap. Thinks how useful this topic will be when someone searches for it in the future, and all they get is members telling them to learn to drive stick.


I know there are many reason to drive manuel. Personally I can drive a manual, but due to a car accident. my elbow prevents me from owning a manual car. ( elbow throbs with pain after driving for a while )

Hey Doc,
Do you know how much power the auto 3s from a mr2 can handle? I bet it will be one hard clip to find.
-Hanyo+Jun 25, 2005 - 8:46 AM
QUOTE(Hanyo @ Jun 25, 2005 - 8:46 AM)

Hey Doc,
Do you know how much power the auto 3s from a mr2 can handle? I bet it will be one hard clip to find.
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If it's the engine you mean, it would be no different than the 5-speed. If it's the tranny you're talking about, good question, but with most people running modified 3SGTEs that are making about 300 flywheel hp, I don't think it would be a problem. Getting over 300 is quite expensive so at that point you may as well think about getting a fully built tranny at that point.

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-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
Where are you going to get this built auto tranny Red? I'm sorry, but you'd be better off w/ a manual. Odds are the most power ur car will ever see is a 3s. No big 400whp, ect. We're just not fast enough to require some racing tranny.

Not only that, stick has it's advantages. Try going for a twisty drive and using revmatching to take u thro corner and ull be glad its manual

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there is a guy on www.toyotanation.com called tony the tiger... he has a fully built automatic transmission for his T66 powered camry. i am not sure if he built up on the stock transmission (i think he had a 3vz-fe) or if put in a custom made transmission...
talk to him maybe you'll get some answers?

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well i can understand her reasonin for want auto anyone that has been to atlanta will know and anyone that lives here will tell u hell no for a 5sp. ur talking on the freeways in the morning and the nights during rush hour a 20 minute drives during the school year (different in summer no buses) atleats a hr drive home atleast. now during the summer bout 30 to 45 min. i have a auto and i am thinking of the same thing keeping it one cause the manual is a pain in the ass in traffic especially in atl traffic. now i dont think anyone has really even answered the question can it be done i think i heard a yes. would it cost more money?? who is right about not being good for the engine and who is wrong also if it works if it doesnt. will it effect anything beside horsepower and by how much?? all these things she needs to know and i will need to know eventually. so thanks again everyone for posting need more answers