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Topic #28092 25 posts Started by koan
I have spent some time on a mr2 forum and found that some of them are switching out their 5sfe for a 1mzfe. For those who don't know this is the v6 engine that has been in the camry. From what I've read, in an mr2 this swap can be done as cheaply or cheaper than a 3sgte. Weight difference is about the same between a 3sgte and 1mzfe, so bad balance isn't too much on an issue. This engine will have about 200 HP. And TRD makes a supercharger for it. It looks to me to be a pretty attractive idea for those who like the N/A powerband better than the turbo and don't like the lag. Mabey there is something I missed. Is there something thats makes this swap impossible for celicas?
No. It would be a nice swap - particularly with the supercharger.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
It should be added to the feasable swaps list then. I would like to see it done by somebody.
o0o0o0o.. ideas.

YoungSurvival.Org-Celica traded for.. 350z.. traded for Mazda5.. soccer mom!
well it really can't be added yet cause with wiring and such nobody knows if its truely feasable or not....

aka no info on it yet
There is some info on it. I suggest that anybody wanting to research it try mr2oc.com. It has been done on a car with a drivetrain very similar to the celica GT, and just because we don't know of anybody who has done it in a celica, dosen't mean that it shouldn't be listed where people can see that it is an option open to exploration.

This post has been edited by koan: Aug 18, 2005 - 11:07 AM
If I still had my celica, I would like to try it myself.
I think I would like to try this.

Would anyone in the vicinity of me like to help?

YoungSurvival.Org-Celica traded for.. 350z.. traded for Mazda5.. soccer mom!
Perfectly feasable... it's been done already in a 5th gen (turned 5th gen ST coupe into a mid 14 second car with good driving)... There are things to be dealt with... like the steering rack, moutning, wiring, hood clearence, etc. The guy that did it floats around celicatech.com

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
Id help, but I'm about nine hours north of you.
If anyone does do it... post info on it... cuz i'm figuring that if my engine dies i want to swap instead of getting another car... and just doing an engine with 200 hp would be nice!

~Daniel~ No Longer Celica Owner.. moved on to a 03 WRX-EJ207
Im sure this is possible. The wiring is pretty much the same on the camry.
Now, there is really no Manual tranny for the engine. So if you were to outfit this with a 3s tranny. You would end up with an EMS system. This is roughly the same price as a 3S when you are done, but I would like see this on a 6G celica.
-soulshadow+Sep 1, 2005 - 11:05 AM
QUOTE(soulshadow @ Sep 1, 2005 - 11:05 AM)
Now, there is really no Manual tranny for the engine. [right][snapback]330133[/snapback][/right]


Incorrect. They make the E153 (MR2T manual tranny) for a FWD application in the V6 Camry's and Solaras. Please don't guess when posting information as fact. If you don't know, you should preface your comments with "I think" or something like that.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
It's been done, as Kwanza said -- go to Celicatech.com, look up Adrian Averginos.
thats the engine in the camry, solara, avalon, and sienna, my mom drives a sienna, my sister drive a avalon, they have alot of torque, in a 2700lb car i'd be quick, also isn't it an all aluminum block? to bad the supercharger is like $4000... i read some artical on a guy with a v6 camry 5 speed, and he had a custom turbo set up with a t66 turbo, if i come across the page i'll put a link......

to bad the e153 tranny's are becoming hard to find, never came in the sienna, or avalon, maybe 1/3 of solara's, and 1/4 of camry's...
-o8poa8o+Sep 1, 2005 - 5:44 PM
QUOTE(o8poa8o @ Sep 1, 2005 - 5:44 PM)
to bad the e153 tranny's are becoming hard to find, never came in the sienna, or avalon, maybe 1/3 of solara's, and 1/4 of camry's...
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Hmmm....I just ran a quick search on car-part.com and found over 200 that are available in the U.S. and Canada.

QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
hmm thats odd, i figured there weren't many, cause back when i wanted a 3sgte camry, i couldn't find a manual camry around my house for the life of me
I tThink tthe only real problem your going to run into is, finding a low milage engine. Were as most import engines have under 50k.. a american one on average would have over 120k or so. Unless you came across a good deal on a wrecked one. Its prolly going to run the same cost, and have less power, and worse gas milage, but all n/a and us legal.
im sure you could find a cheap one, and just rebuild it for much less than importing a 3sgte

to make the search larger, im pretty sure the es250, and es300's came with the same engine

This post has been edited by o8poa8o: Sep 3, 2005 - 10:31 PM
i'm a noob

what year camry?
im guessing like 94 and up camry
We have talked about this alot down at the shop and alot of them them want to put a v6 in my car, I really dont want too but mabey another celi some day.

From what Ive looked into to stay legal anyways is gettin a 97+ lower millege wrecked, or clip USDM Camry/Solara, then you have everything you need.

DTE

I am a thief.do not buy anything from me.
I saw a mr2 that had the swap in a mag and they had a compound set up super charger and turbo!
Umm... first off to the dreamers... swap the motor before you start supercharging and turbocharing. This is NOT and easy swap nor will it be easier than a 3SGTE. It will require a bit of custom fabrication... IMO, the 3SGTE is a race proven motor and is much much better and will make the celica much much faster.

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
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to make the search larger, im pretty sure the es250, and es300's came with the same engine


the es300 has the same engine, the 3 liter. But as the name suggests, the es250 shares the platform with the older camry and uses a 2.5 liter engine. Completely different

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