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Topic #28415 38 posts Started by Kadett
Do not know about the rev limiter on the ST but on the GT with 3s-ge its 7200 and you cannot change unless you have a complete diffrrent ECU (AFAIK)
^^ Yup If you want to go higher then that you will have to replace the ECU!

JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
Guys, friend of mine did the forementioned n/a tuning on his GT without piggyback and now his rev limit is 8k rpm.

'94 ST202 - tuned, highly apprieciated, but sold.'99 ST205 - imported, legalized, Stage 1 completed.For slow driving: Yamaha XVS650 Drag Star.The most recent addition to the family and for the family: Toyota RAV4 2.0 VVTiCelica-ClubPoland-Everything you want to know about your favourite car ... in Polish
-yozef+Sep 2, 2005 - 4:57 AM
QUOTE(yozef @ Sep 2, 2005 - 4:57 AM)
You cannot "feel" a mid 14's you have to time it on a proper track.  Do you have the transmission converion yourself?

Is there somewhere documented that gears are shorter on the USD S54?

Finally you cannot rev a car to 8k with a piggyback.  You need a complete ECU!
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The reason why I say I feel like I run mid-14's is because i've ran against cars doing mid-14's and i've either beat them or kept up with them.

I've yet to find documentation showing the gear ratios of the 3S-GE S54, but there is documentation of the 5S-FE S54 gear ratios. But I know for a fact that the gears are different because I noticed the difference after I swapped the engine. Not only that but it's been verified over at MR2OC.com that the gears are different as well.
1st gear: 3,285
2nd gear: 1,960
3rd gear: 1,322
4th gear: 1,028
5th gear: 0,820
reverse: 3,153
diff: 3,944

This is for my GT from The Dutch Fan Club

From here the gears from US GT

1st gear: 3.285
2nd gear: 1.960
3rd gear: 1.322
4th gear: 1.028
5th gear: .820
reverse: 3.153
diff: 4.176

So bladder was right. Final drive is different. But from what i could tell that should make the car faster in acceleration but lower in top speed! When using the same enginge of course!

This post has been edited by Kadett: Sep 3, 2005 - 2:39 AM

JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
-Kadett+Sep 3, 2005 - 2:34 AM
QUOTE(Kadett @ Sep 3, 2005 - 2:34 AM)
1st gear: 3,285
2nd gear: 1,960
3rd gear: 1,322
4th gear: 1,028
5th gear: 0,820
reverse: 3,153
diff: 3,944

This is for my GT from The Dutch Fan Club

From here the gears from US GT

1st gear: 3.285
2nd gear: 1.960
3rd gear: 1.322
4th gear: 1.028
5th gear: .820
reverse: 3.153
diff: 4.176

So bladder was right. Final drive is different. But from what i could tell that should make the car faster in acceleration but lower in top speed! When using the same enginge of course!
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Indeed. Thanks for the info Kadett.
Well, Kadett - I gave your issue another thought. And I think you are right - there is no need to turbo or swap 3sge. I had plans to do such setup but now changed my mind. I definitely want to have turboed car, but for it to be fun I will buy (if Mr. Wallet allows) MR2 (drifting :-D). With Celi I will just go for full engine maintenance to bring it to 100% stock specs, plus sporty camshafts, light flywheel, piggyback, custom CAI and exhaust. This will bring me to ~200 hp and still allow to race 1/4 mile in Profi class (n/a 1.6+ litre engines, FWD). If I turboed then I would have to go to Turbo class which currently has some 1000+ hp monsters - no point competing with such things.

Thanks for inspiration.

'94 ST202 - tuned, highly apprieciated, but sold.'99 ST205 - imported, legalized, Stage 1 completed.For slow driving: Yamaha XVS650 Drag Star.The most recent addition to the family and for the family: Toyota RAV4 2.0 VVTiCelica-ClubPoland-Everything you want to know about your favourite car ... in Polish
a guy on the uk celica-club got 188bhp from his 3s-ge thats with an induction kit cat back exhaust and dastek uni chip all setup on the rolling road, the peak bhp isnt as good as you would hope but if you look at his graphs theres plenty of improvment lower down , 5k theres a 15bhp increase also the increase in torgue below 3k must make it a dream to drive , if he added a decat and got a better cold air feed setup i recon he could see close to the 200bhp

http://www.celica-club.co.uk/cgibin/phpbb2...ghlight=unichip

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