LSD E153 FTW
330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
The 3SGTE Swap - 6G Celicas Forums
330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
kool ignor last post iv been answerd the e153 has lsd and will need inner mr2 shafts and outter st205 shafts
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this is a great write up, everything is put basic and is easy to understand, I think my friends and I are capable of the swap its just the wiring im worried about, in Australia we dont have DGPerformance so what type of shop would I have to send my car to, to get it wired with EVERYTHING WORKING.
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dr tweak can definetly hook you up with a plug and play harness or art (lagos)i think has been doing a couple harnesses lately.
QUOTE (Euphoria @ Sep 21, 2009 - 12:35 AM) 
>this is a great write up, everything is put basic and is easy to understand, I think my friends and I are capable of the swap its just the wiring im worried about, in Australia we dont have DGPerformance so what type of shop would I have to send my car to, to get it wired with EVERYTHING WORKING.
dr tweak can definetly hook you up with a plug and play harness or art (lagos)i think has been doing a couple harnesses lately.
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yea tweak would be the man to talk to...lagos did mine but i dont know how inclined he would be to do another? lol...but thats something you can ask him....good luck with it though
BTW..whats next on the list for the car def. anything? or is it sittin on the back burner for now
QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 21, 2009 - 6:08 AM)
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dr tweak can definetly hook you up with a plug and play harness or art (lagos)i think has been doing a couple harnesses lately.
QUOTE (Euphoria @ Sep 21, 2009 - 12:35 AM)
>this is a great write up, everything is put basic and is easy to understand, I think my friends and I are capable of the swap its just the wiring im worried about, in Australia we dont have DGPerformance so what type of shop would I have to send my car to, to get it wired with EVERYTHING WORKING.
dr tweak can definetly hook you up with a plug and play harness or art (lagos)i think has been doing a couple harnesses lately.
yea tweak would be the man to talk to...lagos did mine but i dont know how inclined he would be to do another? lol...but thats something you can ask him....good luck with it though
BTW..whats next on the list for the car def. anything? or is it sittin on the back burner for now
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with additional mods (bigger turbo, lighter flywheel, etc.) the 5s tranny might not be able to hold that kind of power... any information on transmissions in particular? i'm thinking to use the E-153, but issues i found online were the axles not fitting properly (too loose), the CV boots ripping, etc...
any help on that would be much appreciated, and it does pertain to a 3S-GTE swap, as it's one other thing to assist in the engine reaching it's potential once in without destroying the car, driver, and itself....
any help on that would be much appreciated, and it does pertain to a 3S-GTE swap, as it's one other thing to assist in the engine reaching it's potential once in without destroying the car, driver, and itself....
hey guys i have a 96 7afe and want to do a 3s swap. if i buy a 94+ mr2 rear cut will it have most of the things i need except for the exhaust? i figured since it was a 3s it would have the same motor mounts any help would be greatly appreciated.
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No, the Mr2 3sgte has different mounts, brackets, engine harness, etc. You want an ST205 engine. I have several in stock, along with the E153 LSD transmission...PM me for pricing if interested.
QUOTE (mjperno @ Feb 15, 2010 - 4:04 PM)
>hey guys i have a 96 7afe and want to do a 3s swap. if i buy a 94+ mr2 rear cut will it have most of the things i need except for the exhaust? i figured since it was a 3s it would have the same motor mounts any help would be greatly appreciated.
No, the Mr2 3sgte has different mounts, brackets, engine harness, etc. You want an ST205 engine. I have several in stock, along with the E153 LSD transmission...PM me for pricing if interested.
330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
You should feel real special. This is one post that is really long that I have read 
Amazingly easy write-up, now I know more about my 3sgte swap
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Amazingly easy write-up, now I know more about my 3sgte swap
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94' Red Celica ST Hatchback: 3S-GTE SwapUpgrade??:ATS CT27 Kits-Toni
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where are you located? are you selling clips? i'm thinking about gettin' back into the celica scene. just have a nice project to work on during the weekends. lmk what you got.
QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Feb 15, 2010 - 2:24 PM)
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No, the Mr2 3sgte has different mounts, brackets, engine harness, etc. You want an ST205 engine. I have several in stock, along with the E153 LSD transmission...PM me for pricing if interested.
QUOTE (mjperno @ Feb 15, 2010 - 4:04 PM)
>hey guys i have a 96 7afe and want to do a 3s swap. if i buy a 94+ mr2 rear cut will it have most of the things i need except for the exhaust? i figured since it was a 3s it would have the same motor mounts any help would be greatly appreciated.
No, the Mr2 3sgte has different mounts, brackets, engine harness, etc. You want an ST205 engine. I have several in stock, along with the E153 LSD transmission...PM me for pricing if interested.
where are you located? are you selling clips? i'm thinking about gettin' back into the celica scene. just have a nice project to work on during the weekends. lmk what you got.
Yes, I sell clips. I have one coming in within the next 3 weeks but the engine is spoken for already, but the body panels and everything else are available. PM me for information. For everyone else interested in more information about purchasing a GEN3 3sgte or font half cut...please PM me so we dont clutter up this thread.
330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
as far as emissions go, is it possible to do a 3sgte swap in a 96 st, and still be able to pass emission tests? With the obd2 computer i will need to do an emission test every year. Have you guys been able to pass emissions?
nope.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
i have not passed in the 2 years since i did the swap. i have to pay $14 bucks a month to keep failing.
who cares about emissions?
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lol i pass every year!
QUOTE (95st-celica @ Feb 28, 2010 - 2:02 PM)
>who cares about emissions?
lol i pass every year!
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i've looked and looked all over but i cant seem to find the answer to my questions
i also want to swap in a 3sgte, 3rd gen preferably. but will it pass emissions? do i have anything to worry about in that category?
it seems like you kept your car FWD? i want to make mine AWD, how possible is that?
i also want to swap in a 3sgte, 3rd gen preferably. but will it pass emissions? do i have anything to worry about in that category?
it seems like you kept your car FWD? i want to make mine AWD, how possible is that?
AWD is possible... Jim is in the middle of his right now, Pipes is done and running for over a year now... it will not pass emissions or a legit shop inspection in most states depending on how strict your laws are.... my 3s swap gets both done every year... i drive it less than 5000 miles a year so it is emissions exempt and i know a guy to pass the inspection... a swapped motor will not match vin numbers so thats an immediate fail in any state that does an inspection
Breaking Axles...
thanks for your help pittfirefighter
so the only way is to pay a guy to pass... haha right?
so the only way is to pay a guy to pass... haha right?
once again it depends on your state and who you know... MOST shops dont go as far as to check vin numbers of engine vs. body, but they could if they want to... so just keep that in mind... if it looks like the swap was put together in 5 min... then they will probably investigate more
Breaking Axles...
thanks for the info
Got to work on my car for the first time this year!
I pulled put my ST radiator, installed a GT that I had in the garage, plugged in the coolant temp sensor on the GT radiator, BAM the fans operate normally! I am sooo happy, this has annoyed me since the swap.
It was nice to work on the car, its been waaay to long.
I pulled put my ST radiator, installed a GT that I had in the garage, plugged in the coolant temp sensor on the GT radiator, BAM the fans operate normally! I am sooo happy, this has annoyed me since the swap.
It was nice to work on the car, its been waaay to long.
I will return one day.
awesome, jeff!
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The fans seemed to drain a bit of power too, with the fans running the car would idle rough, fans off, car idles smooth. Still a little high around 1,100 rpm, but smooth.
I'm going back up next weekend to do some more work on it.
Going to install the new brakes and rotors, I need to find some POR15 get those calipers painted, going to replace the distributor O rings and bearing knock out that oil leak.
I'm going back up next weekend to do some more work on it.
Going to install the new brakes and rotors, I need to find some POR15 get those calipers painted, going to replace the distributor O rings and bearing knock out that oil leak.
I will return one day.
win.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Hey guys I am new to this an have never done an engine swap. I have a 94 gt 5sfe that I lookin 2 swap a st205 engine an trans and make it AWD. What additional parts besides the front clip will I need to perform this?
This post has been edited by seth199232: Dec 16, 2011 - 2:11 AM
This post has been edited by seth199232: Dec 16, 2011 - 2:11 AM
Easy there, tiger. One thing at a time. If you've never done a motor swap, you'll want to start with that. Jumping into a swap AND an AWD conversion gives too much possibility for too many things to go wrong. The information is on this site, just look for the members pipes and czwalga. They both have threads about AWD conversions. It's not easy on a 6th gen. It's all custom. Just start reading around, you'd be surprised by what you can learn 
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 16, 2011 - 11:11 AM)
>Easy there, tiger. One thing at a time. If you've never done a motor swap, you'll want to start with that. Jumping into a swap AND an AWD conversion gives too much possibility for too many things to go wrong. The information is on this site, just look for the members pipes and czwalga. They both have threads about AWD conversions. It's not easy on a 6th gen. It's all custom. Just start reading around, you'd be surprised by what you can learn
Was wondering if you had a estimate of how much everything cost? I'm getting a 97 celica st soon and plan on doing the swap sometime next year of course I'm going to need someone to do it for me out here in CT, so I'm more looking for how much all the parts are going to cost, I'll figure out labor by looking around.
If you're paying someone else to buy an engine and swap it in, figure at least $3000.
This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 26, 2013 - 8:57 AM
This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 26, 2013 - 8:57 AM
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