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Topic #28833 50 posts Started by Drew-887
-darksecret+Sep 14, 2005 - 11:47 AM
QUOTE(darksecret @ Sep 14, 2005 - 11:47 AM)
Yeah a leaf blower is ghetto, but it works, plus you're talking what up to four psi of boost, IMO it would still sound funny going down the road but the fact is something so practical will give you horsepower and in the Celica that's difficult to do. I remember an episode of Mythbusters where they made a sealed container and used a leaf blower to mimic the pressure inside a skyscraper and it built about 4-5 psi so a quility blower could easily mimic the effect of a supercharger or turbo, only thing is having to relieve the pressure when the throttle is closed and build it back up when the throttle opens again.
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It is my belief that if you us a toggle or nitrus switch, you could make it work. You take off in first gear and hit second at about 3000 rpm flip the switch to turn it on, leave it on untill you've hit as fast as you need to go because rpms wouldn't drop to low between shifts. This would be for drag. I can see it working pretty easily for drag. For something like autox, I think it would be hard to make it work. You could use it in the strates. You could use this pretty much exactly like nitrous actually. You won't get as many hp out of it though. I'm sure that if you set it up right it would work good. I'm going to start a list of the stuff you would actually need. Anyone who wants to, please add or take away.

1. Modified Leaf Blower with hook up for output and a place for and intake
2. Filter
3. Converter for battery
4. One of those capaciter things people use on amplifiers
5. A little bit of piping
6. Thicker wire and toggle switch (personal preferance would be push button, cuts down on hitting it by mistake like a full throttle switch and adds ease instead of use instead of flip switch)

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OK guys enough. For someone to do this like you said I think only one person would give you a big thumbs up
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push the button..."TURBO BOOST!!!"

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is this really who you want to be ? >tongue.gif>

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Come on, it's all in good fun. Lets stop the negative opinions please. If you've got some helpful info on this, then post it. I've been reading about it. I don't have much interest in actually doing it, but it's a neat idea and I'd like to discuss it intelegently. Discussing putting a leaf blower on a car intelegently, LOL. Oh well, maybe simi intellegently. I'm thinking going the actual electric supercharger root might be better. I'm going to haff to see some real facts first though.

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realisticly, they way you have it is probably the only way it could work.

I can't believe I am actually think about how to do this... >tongue.gif>

1 hook up blower to intake
you still need to have your intake free when you are not "blowing"

2 wire in a switch or push button for your "blow boost"
you need to be able to turn it on/off the blower when desired


wiring the blower itself would be easy with a converter. Just getting the piping from the blower to the intake and having the normal operating intake when not "blowing" would be the hardest parts.

guys, I will give any of you $50 if you get this installed on the street 100% and get a vid of the action. >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif>

good luck >biggrin.gif>

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
there IS no such thing as a "well working leaf blower turbo" !!! comeon guys, snap back to REALITY.
do you guys ever stop and think about how hot the air will be coming outta that thing?
or fuel?
i mean, once you actually THINK about it, it really just tears the idea up in itself.
i shouldnt have to explain it.
i didnt even have to watch the video.

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BTW the shop that actually did that video is CP Racing of Charlotte, they are actually a very reputable shop but they specialize in Mustangs, they were doing that just to see what would happen.
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BTW the shop that actually did that video is CP Racing of Charlotte, they are actually a very reputable shop but they specialize in Mustangs, they were doing that just to see what would happen.

that makes sense, and i can actually see someone doing that. for fun.
even THINKING of doing that as an actually power mod, IMO is just not good, period.

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i cant belive you guys are really trying to have a discusion about this and trying to treat this as a legit way to modify your car. i think i just lost some respect for a few guys on here.

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My questions:
1. How big of a capacitor would you need?
2. Would it be easier to more beneficial to use some other electric motor set up?
3. Has anyone actually done this?
4. How much air does the 5s and 7a engines suck at full throttle and compare that to how much air a type of blower would put out?
5. Kind of the same as 4, but how much pressure can you actually generate with these things? Are there examples of electric fans making pressure in other cases?

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Well #1 and 2 IDK, #3 probably not, #4 you would need the flow test of a head and probably specs from the maker for the blower, #5 Mythbusters built about 4.5psi in a sealed chamber with a normal leaf blower and it wasn't even at full power.
-darksecret+Sep 15, 2005 - 3:55 PM
QUOTE(darksecret @ Sep 15, 2005 - 3:55 PM)
Well #1 and 2 IDK, #3 probably not, #4 you would need the flow test of a head and probably specs from the maker for the blower, #5 Mythbusters built about 4.5psi in a sealed chamber with a normal leaf blower and it wasn't even at full power.
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About the mythbusters thing, I've seen were someone posted that somewere else. Was it you? I was reading on a forum some were where this guy was talking about using a custom setup with dual motors. I'll try to get some more info here about this junk. I've got way to much spanish to study tonight, so it'll be a bit before I can put some real effort into it.
Come to think of it, it would take one heck of an electric motor to equal the sucking force the engine has. We've all stuck our hands in vacume clears and felt how much the suck, but I've cranked my throttle and stuck my hand on the throttle body before. That is some serious sucking power. So, I've come to the conclusion that it will definately help. Anything to help equilize pressure will help, but will it push more than the car sucks. Short of getting actual flow numbers, this thread is losing weight fast.

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as long as the blower can force more air into the engine than the engine can originally pull AND sustain enough static pressure to hold the air in the intake at a higher pressure than the atmosphere you WILL see a gain, and an industrial leaf blower probably would do it. you guys have to stop calling BS on everything lol but in all honesty, who would really want to rig up a friggen leaf blower under their hood?

its called redneck engineering >smile.gif> and though its redneck... it is applying basic principals, though i doubt they really took the time to figure out if the pressure would sustain and it would force enough air in before sayin "hey what would happen if..."

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-boosted_K2+Sep 16, 2005 - 4:49 PM
QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Sep 16, 2005 - 4:49 PM)
as long as the blower can force more air into the engine than the engine can originally pull AND sustain enough static pressure to hold the air in the intake at a higher pressure than the atmosphere you WILL see a gain, and an industrial leaf blower probably would do it. you guys have to stop calling BS on everything lol but in all honesty, who would really want to rig up a friggen leaf blower under their hood?

its called redneck engineering >smile.gif> and though its redneck... it is applying basic principals, though i doubt they really took the time to figure out if the pressure would sustain and it would force enough air in before sayin "hey what would happen if..."
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Nobody said it couldn't work - only that it wasn't wise nor worthy of serious consideration.

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Hahahaha......I cant wait until somebody comes on here and puts up dyno proven gains of like 40 horsepower. THEN see how fast everyone tries it for themselves. >tongue.gif>

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neeto concept but in all reality please don't do it. This forum would loose respect from any tuner.

"those 6gc guys use leaf blowers to add HP, real men use turbos"

respect and credibility down the tubes.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
it gaind 10hp on a dyno, on a civic si. on a celica, you are probably looking at about a 5hp gain. is that really worth all the crap you would get from having a leaf blower power your motor?

This post has been edited by lagos: Sep 16, 2005 - 11:04 PM

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Ok ok, on a Celica.....NO.

On a beater car.....yes, but just to try and even then its a maybe. It would still be good for laughs though. >wink.gif>

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.
I like how this post is going. People seem to actually be excepting it now. It seems to me that it's a consinsis that it will work, but cost effectiveness is the true issue here. I was reading a thread were a guy was talking about wired a control switch to his throttle so that the fans would spin faster as the throttle increased. I wouldn't what people thought about blowers when they first came out? I read in car and driver how the said "disk brakes are a passing fad, and will have a hard time ever competing with the tecnology of drums." I don't think the electice supercharger will be as big of developement, but it's still interesting to know these things. I really need to start posting links to things I read.

EDIT: Here's one. I'm only part of the way through it.
http://www.osti.gov/fcvt/deer2003/ShahedPa...#39;eturbo'

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Sep 17, 2005 - 2:10 AM

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now you are starting to talk about electric turbos.... those are known not to work because the power drain on the car would be more then the electric turbo could spin.

the leaf blower in that video was running off its own power.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
-lagos+Sep 17, 2005 - 11:44 AM
QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 17, 2005 - 11:44 AM)
now you are starting to talk about electric turbos.... those are known not to work because the power drain on the car would be more then the electric turbo could spin.

the leaf blower in that video was running off its own power.
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So, even if you could set up an extra battery, and a capaciter or something, this still couldn't work for something like drags? I don't know too much at all about electronics. I can wire them, but I'm not really good at the details.

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