Well, I got a new fuel filter and I tried to replace it. It doesn't seem like a hard job, but it's scary. When I say scary, I'm talking about bending a fuel line. I can't get the bolt that holds the line on the bottem off. Is it revers thread or something? I can't see it, so I can't tell. I'm really nervous to put any pressure on this thing and break or crimp a fuel line. Anyone have suggestion as to what I could do?

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Oct 14, 2005 - 10:55 PM

i feel your pain ...make sure you losen the line while filter is still attacted to the chassie .. don't make a bone head more like me and try to un-bolt it then take the fule lines off ..

-macavely+Oct 10, 2005 - 4:32 PM

I think I read your post when that happend. It's part of the reason I'm so scared.

i think your suppose to use 2 flare wrenches, one to hold the line nad one to undo the other nut, both sides, one at a time. be patient and take your time before bending any lines.

-LewFX+Oct 10, 2005 - 5:12 PM

Yeah, one wrench to loosen the nut to line wile the other wrench holding the nut on the filter. I was doing this. It's not coming off. It's really on there. I guess I'll try it again.

pb blaster is your friend.
use flare wrenches to avoid macs delema >>

-presure2+Oct 10, 2005 - 9:08 PM

What do you mean by pb blaster and flare wrenches. These are probably something familar to me, terms just differ due to location.

-Bigmeanbulldog55+Oct 10, 2005 - 9:26 PM
PB blaster is a wd-40 type product, just better.
flare end wrenches are like normal box end wrenches in shape, but have a special end so you dont round off the bolts.
i normally take the top banjo bolt off the filter, then hold the lower nut and break the filter loose with the 2nd wrench. >>

I know what kind of wrenches your talking aobut now. I never knew the name of those. I hardly ever use them either. Most of the time they seem to be more of a pain than anything else. They'd work great for this. I might have to go get some more wrenches. I use to use snap-on stuff in my dad's and uncles garage, but now all I have is, well, I'm not sure what it is. I've been needed to buy a set. All I have is sockets right now. I've got a 14mm and a 12mm and a 10mm though, lol. I'll keep everyone one posted on what's going on.

why do you guys need to take off your fuel filter?
I don't know but I should probbaly do it too, since my car has problems starting when its cold, or its sat around for a while. Could that be the problem of a clogged fuel filter?????? >>

-soulshadow+Oct 10, 2005 - 10:51 PM

It's always a good idea. It's just one of those things that can't hurt anything, and can most of the time help a good bit.

How-to for the 5SFE, with pics -- and shots of why you should change this old a filter.

http://toyotacelicaonline.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=3849

Compare those pics to this, approximately what the filter material should look like when new:


This post has been edited by Galcobar: Oct 11, 2005 - 12:38 AM

that how to is a little diffrenet then the 6th gen ..

i hate doing the fuel filter, that **** is a pain!

i think doing it this way might work out best.

http://www.arach.net.au/~divone/carpics/removaltech.jpg

I posted this a while back. I crimped the fuel line, manage to fix the fuel line but to this day still havent changed the filter, im gonna take in to get done, when i replace my belts in a few months.

Hmm.. I changed mine with a normal set of wrenches and nothing more. I have to say that my GT was the easier of my two vehicles to change. I did my 93 geo prizm and that was a 4 hour job because it was my first time and it was more buried than the celica. 6gc is right there...I got er done in 30 minutes flat.

Just start with the bottom connection which I believe is 14mm and turn it clockwise to losen, since it is upsidedown. When you do the top connection..one thing I did was take the bolt out and draw a line on the top of the bolt marking which direction the hollow part of the bolt takes in order for fuel to flow through it. That way when your putting it all back together and you do the top connection, you can match the line so that it lines up in-line with the fuel hose coming out of it.

I can understand though that in some cases bad things can accidently happen. However I found the celica to be pretty easy.

Yeah the Celica was a pretty easy car to change the filter on. I did it in the same day that I made my intake so it was pretty easy. The bottom bolt was a pain in the butt but after a couple bloody knuckles it came off. Worth it too, the car ran a lot better with the filter changed.

I finished it up tonight. Yeah, that's what I do on Friday nights, aren't I cool? Car seems to run a little better, the "chugging" sound is gone. This is mostly what I was doing the change for. I'll have to test out the car tomorrow to see if it really did the trick. It's to late right now to go out and rip on it, I have a loud exhaust and I don't want to irritate and wake people up.

EDIT at 2:05am: Well, it did help, it's offical. I tested the car on a hill near my house and mark the rpm change to see if it actually pick up hp or at least ran better and it did better. It usually dips 200rpm in the midle of the hill in 5th gear, then levels untill 5/8's of the way up, then it gains rpm. Now, it didn't dip and gain very slightly untill the 5/8's point at which rpm picked up nicely. Even if it didn't really gain hp, it sure does run smoother. I think there's an issue with my "Lowes Intake," though. That's next Friday nights adventure.

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Oct 15, 2005 - 1:10 AM

What size flare wrench is needed for the job? 14mm and 12mm?

edit./ nvm I tried changing using standard tools and failed. The top bolt was easy to remove but the 14mm underneath was a bitch. It slipped twice and I just told myself to giveup and send it to the garage before i do further damage. sucks having no tools

This post has been edited by soven: Dec 31, 2005 - 9:35 PM

Wheel bearing is also another pain in da A** for removal.

Is there a chance of screwing up the bolt even with the flared wrench? I wonder if there is a better way of doing this.


Kinda tempted to get the flare wrench and have another go.

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There's always a chance of screwing things up, no matter what your doing to your car. Some people just can't work on things machanical. If you can't, have someone else do it. You just have to be honest with yourself on what you can do. Wiether that is knowing that something is easy and you can, or knowing it hard and you can't.

What I was trying to say is. Considering I have rounded the bolt a little since I slipped twice on it using a normal wrench, would the flare wrench still work fine? Not too familiar with one.

I am thinking the flare wrench would be fine but ah well, never know unless I try.thanks

Yeah you'll probably be okay if you can get a flare wrench on there. You must use a flare wrench because the metal is so soft.

-Doc

even with the flare wrench mine slipped, probably rounded a bit too much before that.

Paid garage half an hour labour which included a test drive. problem solved.