Hey guys,

The camera I used to take these pics kinda sucks so this was the best I could do for now! Still in the wiring stage, everything is set to go besides that! I will keep everyone updated when Im updated!!









Thanks for looking and please reply!

This post has been edited by 94silverst: Jan 8, 2006 - 9:09 PM

I call BS, these pics are from '97!






I'm just kidding. Nice, glad to see another silvertop going in. Is that a 7AFE header I spy? You know that's not going to flow enough for the 4AGE, right?

Who's doing the wiring for ya?

-Doc

When is it due to be finished? Looks good. I don't know much about engines compared to Dr Tweak, but I haven't seen a header on a 20v that was that small before.

Nice conversion
Keep us updated.
Let us know how it performs.

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It's the header that came with the swap, no its not a 7afe though. I'm guessing a 4age, it's never been brought up before

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We are doing it ourselves!!

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Basically whenever we finish it, its due! It's taking forever!!!

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Ya, maybe someone could shine light on this subject!!

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I will thanks!!

If you need a hand with the wiring, you know who to call

I've just spent the last 20 minutes or so looking at different pics, and I'm totally confused on the header. It's not a stock 20v part, but it's also not a 7AFE header. I'm not sure.

that's great man! hope everything goes smooth as possible

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Ya, it may come down to that

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Ya, I don't have a clue either. But I'm fairly sure that it is a 4age part. Anyway, hopefully it will work well.

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It was going great until the wiring! But hey thanks man!

It's funny because I just finished a 4AGZE/Celica harness last week.

Which GZE is it? The MR2 or the Corolla Levin?

-Doc

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It's not a 4AGZE its just the 4AGE, and I believe it is from the MR2

BTW: if we cannot get this think going, I may be contacting you in a month or so about the harness ;-)

This post has been edited by 94silverst: Dec 14, 2005 - 1:04 AM

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that looks like my 7a header kinda, here is a pic of it



This post has been edited by Batman722: Dec 14, 2005 - 1:15 AM

Oh yeah, I keep doing that because I see the Zs in "fuzzy" and my brain makes it say 4AGZE. That's the silvertop from the Corolla AE101 Levin.

Actually, I'm finishing a 4AGE harness tomorrow! LOL

Batman, it does look like that. However, there are bolt holders welded on in the correct places for a 4AGE manifold shield... actually, maybe it's just the shield being gone that's screwing me up, maybe it is a stock part.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Dec 14, 2005 - 1:45 AM

Those headers are the same size as the ones that came on my clip as well. they are very small for some reason.

Are these headers still good to use? Will they limit my HP?

Get that thing running before you worry about that, my 2 cents

-Doc

Did it all go in pretty easy? Did you use your ST motor mounts and Tranny? What kind of problems (besides wiring) did you have putting it in?

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Most was fairly easy! Motor mounts were perfect and the tranny was a snap. But there were and still are a few issues! Mainly the wiring , but also the headers from the 4a and the 7a are not the same, the 7a is a two bolt system while the 4a is a 3 bolt, so we must have a flange made for the connection. Also, the throtle cable is too short, because the 7afe throtle is on the right and the 4age is on the left (if your looking at the engine from the front of the car. One other thing, we will be mainly using the 7afe wiring harness because it was from a US left-hand drive while the 4age is a JDM right-hand; this means that 4age wiring harness is too short to get to the connection in the firewall opening, also a problem with the 4age is the connection to the distributer, since we are using the 7afe harness, we have to use the 7afe distributer (because of connection differences) which is kind of a problem due to the height of the spark plug wires which do not fit under the 4age spark plug cover. So all in all, there are some rather large problems with the swap; but in the end it will all be worth it! My suggestion would be would be having Dr_Tweak do the harness for you, that would reduce the stress by a good amount. But go for it! Its one of the best swaps to do in our cars, and most of the time you will have fun doing it!

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Have you got it running yet? Are you using the 4AGE ECU?

-Doc

Not yet, not much time right now though, with Christmas and all! But hopefully soon! And ya, we are still going to use the 4age ECU. BTW what would happen if we used the 7afe ECU? Does it make a difference? it must in some way... right?

Well, you would need to use the 7A sensors, eliminating the AFM, and then the stock 4AGE injectors, and then the engine would only rev to 6500 RPM unless you took the crystal out and replaced it with another one... I've seen it done.

But in theory it's possible.

I think I will stick to using the 7afe ECU and just tweek it! Because I couldn't imagine trying to re-wire the interior connection so the dash and all the componets would work correctly!

Talk to this guy about it, he's done it before.

toyotaspeed90@hotmail.com his name is Thom.

NEW PICS!! These are actually clear! BTW should be done by spring!











Hope you like~

Also- I will be buying a new header for them because this one is just WAY too small!

This post has been edited by 94silverst: Jan 8, 2006 - 9:10 PM

Cool! Have you decided for sure to use the 7A ecu?

Take a pic of the bottom flange of the header for me.

-Doc

that's a pretty cool engine swap project you got there! i wonder if i could do an engine swap with my 3sfe engine(auto trans.) with a silver or black top 4age jdm engine(manual trans.)?

also...what is the difference between silver and black top 4age jdm? i know black top have 170hp tops. what does silver hp pull out to be?

sorry..i'm so new to these kind of things...XD a good information collection is good for me to start my engine swap...i'm pretty tired of auto trans...XD

You could, but you would have to get 7AFE mounts and axles.

The silvertop is rated at 160hp.

-Doc

silver tops hp isn't that bad at all! it's similiar to scion tc hp at least...and thanks for the info on the engine swap

now i just gotta save up and work on the money to get my hands on silver or black top 4age engine. question is ....where you could get your hands on it? ebay?

www.venus-auto.com and www.gspeedcorp.com

Tell them that Dr Tweak from Phoenix Tuning in Vermont sent you

-Doc

Thanks alot Doc! i'll sure to do that!