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Topic #32415 39 posts Started by NickTheGreek
Nice work, but power and torque MUST cross at 5252rpm.

Oddness?


JDM ST205Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying.
Well I just become father yesterday… I will start to search for a baby sport seat for my son now….

Magic, the bottom end it’s from a BEAMS VVTI 3SGE engine.

Until now we had broke a lot of 3SGTE blocks (include the caldina version) when we push the boost above the 1.9 – 2.0 bars.
We try the bottom end of the BEAMS VVTI 3SGE block because we know that the latest COROLA WRC had a turbo conversion of the BEAMS VVTI 3SGE engine.

In comparison with the EVO, the TOYOTA 3SGTE engine it’s better engine but it has one weakness. The block it’s not so strong…
OMG...ya went 2 bars on your 3sgte... thats like 29.4lbs of boost.... bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif bowdown.gif
congrats on your kid NICK. have you named him yet?

Turbo install made possible thanks toTeamJ.D.M.officially 5SFTE junior member~*MuH NeW RiDe*~
NicktheGreek Congratulations for you and your babe "Na sou Zisi" in Greek language.smile.gif

Now about the block i know from a TTE (Toyota Team Europe) tunner that the Caldina version block it is MUCH stronger than previous 3SGTE blocks,i am still talking about version "4".
In Cyprus i have a friend with MR2(3SGTE Version "3") that he is running 2.2 bar max boost using Apexi stroker but this is not my point,i think that every boost above the 1.2bar on 3SGTE,every single 0.1 bar must handle very serious performing the engine tunning,i think tunning its the key not the block i.e you can see 3SGTE engines running on 1.9 boost without any problems and you can see 3SGTE engines running 1.4 and braking,of course i am not talking about the peripherals(intake.exhaust etc) i am talking about rebuilt engines and when you are reaching higher every single detail it matters.
We have very strong JDM cars in Cyprus,most of them running low 9 seconds and you should notice that many Cypriot cars are coming in Greece for Draggster.
What is weak on our cars with more than 500bhp?Its the differential/gearbox smile.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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In comparison with the EVO, the TOYOTA 3SGTE engine it’s better engine but it has one weakness. The block it’s not so strong…


Fensport are running 650bhp on a standard GTE block. The block is as tough as old nails. Tony has 600bhp with the standard crank.
I know of nobody who's managed to damage the thickwalled GTE block. Head gaskets, knackered turbos, valvetrain issues, all manner of other nasty stuff, but no issues with the block.

How were they failing. And were they thick or thinkwalled blocks?

This post has been edited by Mr_E: Jan 10, 2006 - 5:24 AM

JDM ST205Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying.
Sorry, maybe I am not so clear.

When I told that the block of the 3SGTE it's not so strong in comparison with the EVO, I mean that my engineer (BARBARIS) with his GT4 - more than 600HP on the wheels- above the 1.9 - 2.0 bars he has a lot of problems with the block- it chaps.
At the same time the EVO at the same boost from the same tuner it 's OK...

Any way, I will visit CYPRUS Magic as soon as possible, because I am very impressed with the tuners from CYPRUS this summer.

As for the gearboxs, the C-ONE is just perfect ....
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Sorry, maybe I am not so clear.

When I told that the block of the 3SGTE it's not so strong in comparison with the EVO, I mean that my engineer (BARBARIS) with his GT4 - more than 600HP on the wheels- above the 1.9 - 2.0 bars he has a lot of problems with the block- it chaps.
At the same time the EVO at the same boost from the same tuner it 's OK...

Any way, I will visit CYPRUS Magic as soon as possible, because I am very impressed with the tuners from CYPRUS this summer.

As for the gearboxs, the C-ONE is just perfect ....

2 bar boost with your turbo and barbaris's turbo 'HKS T51r' makes so much difference. biggrin.gif
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2 bar boost with your turbo and barbaris's turbo 'HKS T51r' makes so much difference. biggrin.gif
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I agree with you Tufy,if you consider that with a Greddy T88 34D Turbo at 1.8bar on a 3SGTE engine you are getting 720HP,probably you have the 600bhp at 1.4bar!!!This has no sense if you are trying to get the 600bhp or 700bhp on 2.2!!!!Its all about the Setup,tunning and turbo profile!
Evo blocks,Subaru blocks,Toyota blocks i am sure all blocks have their limits,i think if someone its trying to built a 10 sec GT4 or Subaru or Evo for just one run it is very easy for him smile.gif what about the second run?? smile.gif

This post has been edited by Magic: Jan 11, 2006 - 2:44 PM