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Topic #33656 6 posts Started by epinasty
So i need some fuel management among other things and it seems that splurging for the
e-manage would be better than safc2. I guess i can tune the timing and fuel with the e-manage without any extra harnesses. Does anyone out there know what the e-m ultimate has out of the box that the
original doesn't. If im cutting out the middle man and going for a piggy-back should i just continue the funds dump and get the ultimate or is that just overkill for a newbie trying his hand at tunning.
I have a 5sfte to manage btw.
Straight from the Greddy website:
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>Some of the new Ultimate features include; add and subtract fuel and ignition maps, a two-preset memory, A/F Target Map (for self tuning), built-in adapters and correction maps, and extensive data logging with Map Tracing for easier tuning.

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I believe it also tunes vvtli vvt vtc vtec and such. also i think its a 2d map of ign and fuel not just WOT.

Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise
So with the a/f target maping i could just set a ratio i want and the
unit will try to keep the engine running there??
Hey for a guy with no tunning experience that sounds good.
Anyone have either of these and can give some insight on what each can actually do without harnesses. I can read the vauge greddy explination but i don't actually know what the unit is like. If you use the support tool do you think i could learn to tune this properly or should i just find a dyno?
Wannabe, know any dyno's in the witchita area?
Yeah I know of a few. Where in Kansas are you?

Regardless, here they are:

Maximum Performance (No experience)
305 East 3rd
Hutchinson, 67501
620-694-9249

Modified Performance (Seem like good people)
2826 E. 31st Street
Wichita, 67216
316-687-9141

Ted's Dyno Shop (Dumb-Asses)
6141 E Harry St
Wichita, KS
316-683-9041

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Feb 10, 2006 - 5:23 PM

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So with the a/f target maping i could just set a ratio i want and the
unit will try to keep the engine running there??
Hey for a guy with no tunning experience that sounds good.
Anyone have either of these and can give some insight on what each can actually do without harnesses. I can read the vauge greddy explination but i don't actually know what the unit is like. If you use the support tool do you think i could learn to tune this properly or should i just find a dyno?
Wannabe, know any dyno's in the witchita area?



ehhh, concerning the taget mapping its not really that easy.

what you going to do is adjust a/f at certain rpms for different load bank.

youll end up with a spread sheet kinda thing.

Throttle 100rpm 200rpm 300rpm
5% 16.5 16.2
10% 15.9
15% 14.5


you get the idea.

also ive heard something about a password for the support tool to edit the maps, but im not entirely sure on this. something around that idea.

Former: 96 GT 5 speed(i/p/e)Fate-rear ended by mack truck00 GTS 6 speed(i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/)193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted)Fate-side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph.Next: maybe an elise