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Topic #34245 92 posts Started by madmods
just call and see you can track down a blower atleast see if they have one or can get one thats sittting on a shelf somewhere

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
wow... this thread is back from teh grave! so has someone finally decided to go through w/ this s/c idea? glad to know it's getting some serious consideration wink.gif
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madmods, you should really give Ripp a call or email to confirm that they do have the kit around. Like i said above, when i contacted them last october they said they had discontinued the entire 5sfe program with no plans of putting it back in production.

If you want to try and get them to restart it in a grop buy situation like they asked, pm me as i might be interested.

Im trying to get one sourced from them at the moment. the sales guy said he hasn't seen a kit for months
but theres parts laying everywhere. Ha wish me luck. I'm not going to pay over 4000 though. If they do it for 3400 Im cool with that. Moneys burning a hole in my pocket because some guitars on ebay are calling my name.
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I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install

mad, if youve actually decided to do this, i have a line of advice for you.
spend as much money as you can afford to in the head, thats where youll make the power.
the bottom end is easy( rods and pistons are no biggie), and the block is strong. your biggest hurdle engine wise will be the head.
your best bet IMO would be to go NUTS on the head, OS valves, throat correction, port and polish, cams, ect ect.. run a middle of the road compression # like 9:1
and run a full stand alone engine management like the AEM or whatever.

What are some rod choices out there manny? What are they made out of? Im in no hurry to get the car running, so I can put a little bit of money into it at the moment. Im real concerned about the bottom end. Buying a 2nd car was probably the best thing I did. I'm trying to balance all this with the bodywork, brake upgrade, paint, moving and my girlfriend nagging. man I got to get back on the pipe!
the same things have been said about that kit ever since i joined this site, i dont think ANYONE in the world ever has put that on a 6gc tongue.gif

the thread comes up about once every 6 months or so, theres plenty of shady things with that kit.

like the rising rate fuel regulator thing, atleast i think thats what my friend said, he says companies usually throw things like that in their packages to compensate for sloppy programming. if someone coudl elaborate on this let me know, im not ENTIRELY knowledgable but i remember him telling me about it after reading the kit.
S/C'd celica > guitars on ebay

This post has been edited by Predator: Feb 23, 2006 - 7:05 PM
i thought the last time this topic was discussed a stage 1 kit cost 3500 which was why nobody wanted it?

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the same things have been said about that kit ever since i joined this site, i dont think ANYONE in the world ever has put that on a 6gc tongue.gif

the thread comes up about once every 6 months or so, theres plenty of shady things with that kit.

like the rising rate fuel regulator thing, atleast i think thats what my friend said, he says companies usually throw things like that in their packages to compensate for sloppy programming. if someone coudl elaborate on this let me know, im not ENTIRELY knowledgable but i remember him telling me about it after reading the kit.

I think the main reason people have stood away is that its expensive. From online talk, I heard there good kits, and ripps has a good rep. I actually think a swap would be more expensive, when you add everything up. I might get flamed for that, but thats my opinion. I was thinking aftermarket for the electronics and a good tuner with a dyno.

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S/C'd celica > guitars on ebay

hahhahaha, Im an avid guitar collector, and my girlfriend collects antique chests. Were wierd like that! The supercharger will happen. We just moved into a house, and my main concern is getting my garage up into
a decent shop to work in. Im plumbing air compressor lines and flourscent light wiring at the moment.

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wow... this thread is back from teh grave! so has someone finally decided to go through w/ this s/c idea? glad to know it's getting some serious consideration wink.gif

it needs to be done! I think the kit is overpriced, and it would be easy to duplicate some of the fab stuff
to offer a cheaper kit.
i hope you do man would love to see a sc celica

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
I actually think its a really good kit from a company that has a good reputation. Because of that, i think the kit is competitivly priced for the market. I think the price is the reason most people overlooked it, but price is relative to people. If you bought your car for $4K or so, then i could see you thinking it was overpriced. I bought my car new at around $25K, so i dont see it as that much more. Either way, i was disheartened to hear that they had stopped produciton due to lack of interest. I hope you do get some of their parts and build an SC kit for your car Madmods. It would be great to see someone on here have a SC 6gc.

Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it...
Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?
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Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?


well instead of a piggy back i would go stand alone dont get me wrong i use to have the emanage and worked great but i didnt use it to its full potentional just my 2 cents

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?

IMO the shaft drive system is the hardest part of it.
once you have that figured out, its all about fuel and tuning from there.

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
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S/C'd celica > guitars on ebay

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>hahhahaha, Im an avid guitar collector, and my girlfriend collects antique chests. Were wierd like that! The supercharger will happen. We just moved into a house, and my main concern is getting my garage up into
a decent shop to work in. Im plumbing air compressor lines and flourscent light wiring at the moment.


I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

This post has been edited by Silver94CelicaOwner: Feb 24, 2006 - 11:39 AM

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.
i sold my korg triton keyboard for 1,500 to help fund my swap smile.gif

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
i sold my old turbo kit my guaitars and used 2 years worth of taxs returns to finish my motor project

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Heres a question, besides the fab pieces,(pulleys, alternator piece, brackets) What stops people from buying the same vortex supercharger and converting a kit? hell it uses a walboro 225 pump, venom injectors, piping can be made.
Couldn't emanage handle the electronics? When I get my kit I'm willing to see what can be done about it.
My car won't be ready to run in a while, and I'm in no hurry with it. Any machinist on here?

IMO the shaft drive system is the hardest part of it.
once you have that figured out, its all about fuel and tuning from there.

I hope they can get me a kit. Supposely its tuned to run good out of the box. We all have heard that before. rolleyes.gif

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>hahhahaha, Im an avid guitar collector, and my girlfriend collects antique chests. Were wierd like that! The supercharger will happen. We just moved into a house, and my main concern is getting my garage up into
a decent shop to work in. Im plumbing air compressor lines and flourscent light wiring at the moment.


I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.



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i sold my korg triton keyboard for 1,500 to help fund my swap smile.gif



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i sold my old turbo kit my guaitars and used 2 years worth of taxs returns to finish my motor project

Yay for the musicians. Its funny how we sacrafice for our cars. i haved broke for years throwing money into my vehicles!
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I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

What do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians? A drum player... LOL =P

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
i met a guy who had the rip kit on his eclipse. got to talk to him for a while and he gave me the truth about the quality of the kit. he said the tuning sucks ballls, and since its their black box, there is nothing you can do to fix it. in his opinion, they should just add an emanage into the kit. he also said that their "ripp BOV" looks like something a 10yr old kid made at his first day in a machine shop.

before i swaped, i seriously considered the ripp kit... here is the conclustion i came to....
3400 is about what i ended up spending spent on my swap. now you could say that going with a charger would be better or worse, but i think what people forget is that, a swap will do 200+hp at the wheels BONE STOCK, with plenty more room for upgrades. while a charger, might give you similar results, but youll be doing all you an with no room to grow.

This post has been edited by lagos: Feb 24, 2006 - 8:11 PM

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

What do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians? A drum player... LOL =P


Haha, haven't heard that before.... wink.gif

Theres actually much more to being a good drummer than most people think. Lately i've spent 2-3 hours a day practicing because i'm studying professionally with a jazz/latin instructor. I'm a little broke because of it....but I do have gear that I'm selling to help fund a swap and other car goodies. wink.gif

Anyway, back on topic. Madmods, the RIPP kit gonna happen??

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.
i totally agree. a great drumer, and a great vocalist MAKE the band/song. if you have that, you can stick average bass and guitar players in there and most people will never be able to tell.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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i met a guy who had the rip kit on his eclipse. got to talk to him for a while and he gave me the truth about the quality of the kit. he said the tuning sucks ballls, and since its their black box, there is nothing you can do to fix it. in his opinion, they should just add an emanage into the kit. he also said that their "ripp BOV" looks like something a 10yr old kid made at his first day in a machine shop.

before i swaped, i seriously considered the ripp kit... here is the conclustion i came to....
3400 is about what i ended up spending spent on my swap. now you could say that going with a charger would be better or worse, but i think what people forget is that, a swap will do 200+hp at the wheels BONE STOCK, with plenty more room for upgrades. while a charger, might give you similar results, but youll be doing all you an with no room to grow.


Art, I thought you had 5-6 gs total in your car from the swap? How much you got into your motor? i seriously was going to do the swap. I wanted to buy the gt4 rascara was selling. The smog problem is stopping me. The state does the smog out here. I can't bribe an independent garage like when I lived in California. They put you into a little glass room, hook up something to your obd/obd2 and run your car on the rollers and have some sniffer on the exhaust. Then they move it,
to another spot, check for erg and test your gas cap. If I swap, it means different obd. Thats where Im screwed. Then I was going to turbo the 5sfe, been buying parts, but decided on the Ripps assuming I can
get one for under 3500. I refuse to pay 5 gs for one. I beleive playr said the difference between the different stages are different sizes of pulleys for more horsepower.
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I'm a drummer myself, and instead of a swap I soaked a little over 4 grand into an orange sparkle Drum Workshop Collectors Series kit. It was a great buy....but everyday I look at it and think to myself that I could have had a swap for that money kindasad.gif ....haha.

That was about a year ago....now its time for swap for me.

What do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians? A drum player... LOL =P


Haha, haven't heard that before.... wink.gif

Theres actually much more to being a good drummer than most people think. Lately i've spent 2-3 hours a day practicing because i'm studying professionally with a jazz/latin instructor. I'm a little broke because of it....but I do have gear that I'm selling to help fund a swap and other car goodies. wink.gif

Anyway, back on topic. Madmods, the RIPP kit gonna happen??


I'm waiting for them to get back to me. From what I understand at the moment, there are the custom fab pieces for the camry laying around their shop. The camry kit sold for 3400. It was discontuined. I have 3 gs saved now. Other people got quoted 5 something for them to make the 5sfe kit. Im not going to pay that. I'll turbo the 5 first before handing out that kind of money.

This post has been edited by madmods: Feb 25, 2006 - 4:01 AM
I'd love to finally see a supercharged 5SFE done, or turbo a totally built 5SFE with a reworked head, metal headgasket, forged internals, and standalone.

Either way you'll have an exciting project on your hands.

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.
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honesly, i lost track of exact costs a long time ago. so, i cant give you a specific number. but all i know is that i had 4grand in my hand the day i bought my clip, and at the end of the swap, all that was gone. normally if you do your own work and have a GT, you should have no problems staying within this budget.

just keep in mind, that whatever you decide to do, making power isint cheap. there is no free lunch. there are alwasy lots of hidden costs involved when you take your car past the stock power level. it dosnt even matter if its a charger, turbo, swap, or another brand of car. you have to pay to play.

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> Art, I thought you had 5-6 gs total in your car from the swap?



honesly, i lost track of exact costs a long time ago. so, i cant give you a specific number. but all i know is that i had 4grand in my hand the day i bought my clip, and at the end of the swap, all that was gone. normally if you do your own work and have a GT, you should have no problems staying within this budget.

just keep in mind, that whatever you decide to do, making power isint cheap. there is no free lunch. there are alwasy lots of hidden costs involved when you take your car past the stock power level. it dosnt even matter if its a charger, turbo, swap, or another brand of car. you have to pay to play.

I gotta start robbing banks again wink.gif
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> Art, I thought you had 5-6 gs total in your car from the swap?


just keep in mind, that whatever you decide to do, making power isint cheap. there is no free lunch. there are alwasy lots of hidden costs involved when you take your car past the stock power level. it dosnt even matter if its a charger, turbo, swap, or another brand of car. you have to pay to play.

you are not kidding on this one. the little things on my 5sfte project have definitely been adding up. big time.
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I'm waiting for them to get back to me. From what I understand at the moment, there are the custom fab pieces for the camry laying around their shop. The camry kit sold for 3400. It was discontuined. I have 3 gs saved now. Other people got quoted 5 something for them to make the 5sfe kit. Im not going to pay that. I'll turbo the 5 first before handing out that kind of money.



if you are getting that from the link of the thread i posted, i think you read it wrong. They wanted 5 people to put down a $1000 deposit to start up the program, a total of $5000. $1000 up front from each person, then the rest, $2400, after it is delivered. Making the final total $3400 for each kit. I would never consider paying $5K for just one kit!

Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it...
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This post has been edited by madmods: Feb 26, 2006 - 10:46 AM
I think that would all lie upon what the driveshaft length was on that kit. If you could physically make it fit, and then talk to RIPP about getting a "blackbox" for the 5SFE motor, you could likely make it work pretty well. However you could closely replicate their tuning using a BTM for the timing, using the fuel pressure regulator that comes with it, and an S-AFC II for the fuel control. The components that are listed in that kit on Ebay are very similar to what came with the 5SFE kit.

Of course your best bet would still be to track down a 5SFE kit from RIPP themselves and make it a bolt-on deal......however I would bet some money that as long as that driveshaft isnt too short to go the length of the motor and you found the right size drive belt, you could make that kit fit with the help of a local machine shop. wink.gif

This post has been edited by Silver94CelicaOwner: Feb 26, 2006 - 11:54 AM

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.