what really happened on 9/11? - 6G Celicas Forums
OooO I'm gonna watch that when I get home.
good god...that's just creepy.
my guess is that:
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
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thats f'd up man..why would our own government do such a thing like that?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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my guess is that:
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
my guess is that:
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
thats f'd up man..why would our own government do such a thing like that?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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QUOTE(TurbO @ Mar 8, 2006 - 10:02 PM) [snapback]404868[/snapback]
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my guess is that:
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
my guess is that:
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
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can we jus give this a rest.. so many stories.. its not like it really matters at this time.. nothing you can do about it and it already happend.. deal with it :-(
it sounds like Micheal Moore Junior decided to try his hand at making movies too.
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
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come on man
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my guess is that:
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
my guess is that:
1. the US gov wanted people dead because of population
2. it was a set-up
3. unknown
many of me and my peers have come to conclusions that it was a total set up
you never know because of that stupid government sh*t
come on man
iunno but the whole thing on the "plane crashing into the pentagon" is a hoax. dont think a plane crashed into the pentagon, i mean what crash scene looks so clean?? a big plane like that would of made a hell of dent other then that little whole? and wheres the rest of the plane? i work at pratt & whitney canada and there are way more parts in a jet turbine other then that one HP turbine disk!! and most parts are made of high grade alloys of some sort like titainium (almost indistructable), like that single disk they found " theyre more turbine stages then that, in a jet engine". IF THEY WOULD LIE ABOUT THAT THEN THEY COULD LIE preiod!!...........i figure.........they even showed a surveillance clip they got from a nearby hotel.....no plane hit the damn building!!! how do u explain that???........you dont have to believe me but i smell something fishy...
that movie was pretty crazy. far better then michael moors movie
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Who watched the entire 80mins? I just watched the entire thing, and I was very skeptical about any hoax or conspiracy theory. But after watching this, wow. I really have no idea what to think. Alot about that day doesnt add up, and now I'm seriously considering thinking this wasnt what we are led to believe.
One thing for sure, nothing was done because of population. Money, and power, thats what causes things like this. I really dont know what to think, I've been scared since Bush took office and it gets worse everyday. He didnt even win the election in the popular vote. Too much has happened to many scandals too many wrong-doings by this administration. This gov't doesnt work for the people ne more, and I think the REAL American way of standing up for yourself and challenging the unfair treatment of citizens is gone.
Honestly from the bottom of my heart I have real fear for this country. Theres a reason the U.S. population is kept in the dark, if anybody knew 1/2 of what we do around the world you'd be disgusted with this country. Its time for change.
One thing for sure, nothing was done because of population. Money, and power, thats what causes things like this. I really dont know what to think, I've been scared since Bush took office and it gets worse everyday. He didnt even win the election in the popular vote. Too much has happened to many scandals too many wrong-doings by this administration. This gov't doesnt work for the people ne more, and I think the REAL American way of standing up for yourself and challenging the unfair treatment of citizens is gone.
Honestly from the bottom of my heart I have real fear for this country. Theres a reason the U.S. population is kept in the dark, if anybody knew 1/2 of what we do around the world you'd be disgusted with this country. Its time for change.
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watched the entire thing, very well done. I always thought somethin was fishy with bush and with that day too. There was soo many unanswered questions, so many different stories for things that happened, yet not a single one was the same as another story. The whole thing about seeing the explosions 15 or 20 stories down was somethin i always thought was strange. Right after it happened i probably spent 2 days, like 2 or 3 hours a day downloading videos and just watchin em, and i always noticed thouse. Plus i was also just watchin a documentory the other day on demolition and i was thinkin when i was watchin this demolition documentory that it looked alot like how the WTC came down. I belive it.
EDIT: last comments by Super ^^^, very true. As a Canadian, i feel scared to even live in Canada at times cuz we r so close to the boarder. This girl i work with is from middel of no where Quebec, and moved to Toronto for school. She is very heavy into Prophets and Nastradomus and all of his Prophecy's and such, and she quit school, moved back to Quebec earlier this week because of a prophecy that Nastrodamus had, sayin that Iran and Jarusalem are going to start a war, that will spread many seas and create a bigger war in a far nation that invterveens. IE, they start a war there, US goes over, U.S. gets f*cked. And with the state of things these days, im not gonna b supperised. Main reason why i wanna move to Europe after i graduate.
This post has been edited by Valo666: Mar 8, 2006 - 11:26 PM
EDIT: last comments by Super ^^^, very true. As a Canadian, i feel scared to even live in Canada at times cuz we r so close to the boarder. This girl i work with is from middel of no where Quebec, and moved to Toronto for school. She is very heavy into Prophets and Nastradomus and all of his Prophecy's and such, and she quit school, moved back to Quebec earlier this week because of a prophecy that Nastrodamus had, sayin that Iran and Jarusalem are going to start a war, that will spread many seas and create a bigger war in a far nation that invterveens. IE, they start a war there, US goes over, U.S. gets f*cked. And with the state of things these days, im not gonna b supperised. Main reason why i wanna move to Europe after i graduate.
This post has been edited by Valo666: Mar 8, 2006 - 11:26 PM
heh didn't watch the whole video but ive seen liek 5 different videos like this one and wasn't really seeing any new information... defiantly a horrible thing to think about but the govt has been so shady... did bush need a reason to finish his dads war?
ya man that video is crazy. As far as nostradamus, its been proven that his prophcies are just general ideas and are fake. He wrote a book and said something about the world ending in 1979, obviously it hasnt :-p. But ya, USA sucks.
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the pentagon wasn't a hoax my small group leader was there in the parking lot and watched the plane hit
this is really crazy guys. you cant believe this was done by our own government.
I love conspiracy theories.
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yeah i just saw the video my self and well i was living in new york when this happend, i mean i was in my fist day of my8th grde year when this happened. I was alwasy skeptical especially about how uniform the collapses were but this does clear some things while just raising more questions. regardless nice find and spread the word i guess.
uuuhh now i feel sick
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wow your ignorant
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it sounds like Micheal Moore Junior decided to try his hand at making movies too.
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
it sounds like Micheal Moore Junior decided to try his hand at making movies too.
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
wow your ignorant
Go leafs go
Man... I don't know what to believe anymore... no matter who's side you're on... you have to agree that the documentry made very good and valid points.
Edit: Penn and Teller needs to back this guy up...
This post has been edited by Chanh55: Mar 9, 2006 - 1:23 AM
Edit: Penn and Teller needs to back this guy up...
This post has been edited by Chanh55: Mar 9, 2006 - 1:23 AM
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yep watched all of it. very interesting video but im not fully convinced. one thing ive learned is you can pick and choose evidence to support any viewpoint. obviously hes biased, and the key to a persuasive argument is to address the oppostion which he never did. but that said, it was very well put together (although he used flawed logic at times) and definitly got me thinking. my opinion, never form conclusions without researching yourself.
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id sure hate to think so, but it would be naive to discredit the possibility just because its a terrible thought. many actions and functions of the government are completely oblivious to the public, and in most cases that can be argued to be a good thing. im in a political philosophy class now and just finished reading thucydides (very good read and enlightening to current events for those interested). nations act in response to fear and self-interest invariably. the video failed to provide a convincing motive for me. i dont think the govnt would commit that to make i few individuals rich. i would however more likely believe it was done to protect us in the future by giving us a reason to go into the middle east (oil supply security is a factor).
again, i still dont believe it, and id probably vote for bush again if i could. realize this video and others like it are created by people who despise bush and have their own motives. i mean, there are some crazy people out there calling bush the antichrist (google bush antichrist and you will fiind some funny stuff
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This post has been edited by celicaST: Mar 9, 2006 - 1:43 AM
QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Mar 8, 2006 - 9:13 PM) [snapback]404907[/snapback]
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Who watched the entire 80mins? I just watched the entire thing, and I was very skeptical about any hoax or conspiracy theory. But after watching this, wow. I really have no idea what to think. Alot about that day doesnt add up, and now I'm seriously considering thinking this wasnt what we are led to believe.
One thing for sure, nothing was done because of population. Money, and power, thats what causes things like this. I really dont know what to think, I've been scared since Bush took office and it gets worse everyday. He didnt even win the election in the popular vote. Too much has happened to many scandals too many wrong-doings by this administration. This gov't doesnt work for the people ne more, and I think the REAL American way of standing up for yourself and challenging the unfair treatment of citizens is gone.
Honestly from the bottom of my heart I have real fear for this country. Theres a reason the U.S. population is kept in the dark, if anybody knew 1/2 of what we do around the world you'd be disgusted with this country. Its time for change.
Who watched the entire 80mins? I just watched the entire thing, and I was very skeptical about any hoax or conspiracy theory. But after watching this, wow. I really have no idea what to think. Alot about that day doesnt add up, and now I'm seriously considering thinking this wasnt what we are led to believe.
One thing for sure, nothing was done because of population. Money, and power, thats what causes things like this. I really dont know what to think, I've been scared since Bush took office and it gets worse everyday. He didnt even win the election in the popular vote. Too much has happened to many scandals too many wrong-doings by this administration. This gov't doesnt work for the people ne more, and I think the REAL American way of standing up for yourself and challenging the unfair treatment of citizens is gone.
Honestly from the bottom of my heart I have real fear for this country. Theres a reason the U.S. population is kept in the dark, if anybody knew 1/2 of what we do around the world you'd be disgusted with this country. Its time for change.
yep watched all of it. very interesting video but im not fully convinced. one thing ive learned is you can pick and choose evidence to support any viewpoint. obviously hes biased, and the key to a persuasive argument is to address the oppostion which he never did. but that said, it was very well put together (although he used flawed logic at times) and definitly got me thinking. my opinion, never form conclusions without researching yourself.
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QUOTE(Jdog1385 @ Mar 8, 2006 - 10:07 PM) [snapback]404934[/snapback]
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this is really crazy guys. you cant believe this was done by our own government.
this is really crazy guys. you cant believe this was done by our own government.
id sure hate to think so, but it would be naive to discredit the possibility just because its a terrible thought. many actions and functions of the government are completely oblivious to the public, and in most cases that can be argued to be a good thing. im in a political philosophy class now and just finished reading thucydides (very good read and enlightening to current events for those interested). nations act in response to fear and self-interest invariably. the video failed to provide a convincing motive for me. i dont think the govnt would commit that to make i few individuals rich. i would however more likely believe it was done to protect us in the future by giving us a reason to go into the middle east (oil supply security is a factor).
again, i still dont believe it, and id probably vote for bush again if i could. realize this video and others like it are created by people who despise bush and have their own motives. i mean, there are some crazy people out there calling bush the antichrist (google bush antichrist and you will fiind some funny stuff
).
This post has been edited by celicaST: Mar 9, 2006 - 1:43 AM
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside.
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very true, definitly interesting/plausible enough that it kept me watching through the whole thing.
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thats how all conspiracy theories survive, people want to believe in something mysterious. its just human nature as it entertains the mind from the "boredom" of reality. whether its ufos, the bermuda triangle, armageddon prophecies, bigfoot, the "evil" government, you name it and people will convince themselves its true without analyzing facts.
This post has been edited by celicaST: Mar 9, 2006 - 1:42 AM
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Man... I don't know what to believe anymore... no matter who's side you're on... you have to agree that the documentry made very good and valid points.
Man... I don't know what to believe anymore... no matter who's side you're on... you have to agree that the documentry made very good and valid points.
very true, definitly interesting/plausible enough that it kept me watching through the whole thing.
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You will be hooked.
You will be hooked.
thats how all conspiracy theories survive, people want to believe in something mysterious. its just human nature as it entertains the mind from the "boredom" of reality. whether its ufos, the bermuda triangle, armageddon prophecies, bigfoot, the "evil" government, you name it and people will convince themselves its true without analyzing facts.
This post has been edited by celicaST: Mar 9, 2006 - 1:42 AM
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside.
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dont want to start an argument, but why is he ignorant. you're just as ignorant for saying that.
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wow your ignorant
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it sounds like Micheal Moore Junior decided to try his hand at making movies too.
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
it sounds like Micheal Moore Junior decided to try his hand at making movies too.
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
wow your ignorant
dont want to start an argument, but why is he ignorant. you're just as ignorant for saying that.
I enjoyed the video. It was a well made fictional piece. Google Pentagon and 757. These conspiracy theories are everywhere and have been debunked time and again.
My favorite part was the thing about replicating voices in real time. That was SWEEEEET.
The only part I believe is that some people knew about it and made a fortune in pre-attack trading. Those people were connected to the terrorists though.
My favorite part was the thing about replicating voices in real time. That was SWEEEEET.
The only part I believe is that some people knew about it and made a fortune in pre-attack trading. Those people were connected to the terrorists though.
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
If you truly believe this wad of garbage then... Well i just dont know what to say to you even?
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yeah i agree that everyone wants a conspiracy these days. ... but i always thought it was odd that we didnt see any parts of the planes that hit the pentigon or pieces of flight 93
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yeah that part was kind of far fetched. in order for something like that to work, you would have to sample the persons voice well ahead of time so that the machnice can learn the speech patterns. IF that technology even exists.
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> enjoyed the video. It was a well made fictional piece. Google Pentagon and 757. These conspiracy theories are everywhere and have been debunked time and again.
yeah i agree that everyone wants a conspiracy these days. ... but i always thought it was odd that we didnt see any parts of the planes that hit the pentigon or pieces of flight 93
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>My favorite part was the thing about replicating voices in real time. That was SWEEEEET.
yeah that part was kind of far fetched. in order for something like that to work, you would have to sample the persons voice well ahead of time so that the machnice can learn the speech patterns. IF that technology even exists.
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i'm with jdog on this one why is he ignorant? a good chunk of these are for anti-bush reasons...
your canadian what does our government have to do with you?
your ingnorant for talking before you speak....
but the pentagon is literally down the street from me...slipgun and i are the 2 closest members to it on this site, i drove by it and i've personally seen wat happened...conspiracy theory is just bs
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dont want to start an argument, but why is he ignorant. you're just as ignorant for saying that.
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wow your ignorant
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QUOTE(dlx742 @ Mar 8, 2006 - 10:33 PM) [snapback]404893[/snapback]
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it sounds like Micheal Moore Junior decided to try his hand at making movies too.
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
it sounds like Micheal Moore Junior decided to try his hand at making movies too.
that entire movie was made to bash conservatives and George W
wow your ignorant
dont want to start an argument, but why is he ignorant. you're just as ignorant for saying that.
i'm with jdog on this one why is he ignorant? a good chunk of these are for anti-bush reasons...
your canadian what does our government have to do with you?
your ingnorant for talking before you speak....
but the pentagon is literally down the street from me...slipgun and i are the 2 closest members to it on this site, i drove by it and i've personally seen wat happened...conspiracy theory is just bs