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QUOTE(crismillencolin @ Mar 25, 2006 - 12:48 PM) [snapback]413032[/snapback]
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So does it make you guys jealous i could go buy a few GT4 awd's today biggrin.gif LOL - sorry frown.gif

I dont understand how if the car can be ok for the rest of the world but not ok for america ? Surely the differnencs in regulatons arent that tight that a TOYOTA cant be allowed ??smile.gif


cant say im jealous, I would like one, but its nothing to be jealous about. I think im finally getting out of the tuner scene, some guy the other day while I was driving was looking at my car and was like WOW, WHAT IS THAT. IS THAT A MUSTANG!! and i was just like oh god, where did i ever go wrong :-(

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QUOTE(bloodrain @ Mar 25, 2006 - 2:57 PM) [snapback]413084[/snapback]
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cant say im jealous, I would like one, but its nothing to be jealous about. I think im finally getting out of the tuner scene, some guy the other day while I was driving was looking at my car and was like WOW, WHAT IS THAT. IS THAT A MUSTANG!! and i was just like oh god, where did i ever go wrong :-(



Thats enough to make any grown man cry. I think the money you would spend in geting a GT-4 upgraded, and then actually legalizing it would be enough to just buy a 3sgte and do some kinda AWD swap... I think dan had something going there, about switching all the tags and VINs and what not. Ive heard of people doing that for skylines, only it was a little different.

This post has been edited by JFrost9: Mar 25, 2006 - 3:06 PM

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QUOTE(fastgt @ Mar 24, 2006 - 4:19 PM) [snapback]412709[/snapback]
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The cobalt ss is no better than that damned srt-4

I'm pretty sure both these cars have Japanese influence. That's why I don't consider them. I know the SRT-4 has had a lot more builds than the Ecotec 4cylinder. But that Ecotech is really building a racing reputation. That thing is nice. But, I still think it doesn't count as a true American engine. And there will never again be a true American engine due to so much convergence in manufactures.

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QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Mar 24, 2006 - 6:07 PM) [snapback]412752[/snapback]
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no no no no, the corvette it a verry well engineered car but the viper and saleen s7 are better, oh and the 5.0 plus is wrong the mustang rocks a 4.6

The Corvette is better than both the Viper and the Saleen S7 and the GT40. It's about cost effectiveness and what not. For the money, the Vette is a great car, especially now. The older ones weren't too great. You'll hear guys yack about the big block Vettes. That's a 454cupic inch 7.4 liter motor in that car. As far as the little 4.6 Mustang, they weren't so great. I don't hear a lot of Ford guys bragging about them. Most of the time they just want a bigger V8 in there. A 4.6 isn't much for an American V8. I'm no expert though, that's for sure. I only know what I've heard.

better engineered than a saleen s7 what, that happens to be the most aerodynamicly efficent production car ever. and the viper is way better engineered now-a-days, test drivers say it can corner like an elise, plus the heads were designed by lamborghini hello, and the new 4.6 in the mustang is 300 hp, i think that is enough
There is a guy in my town somewhere with an R32 GTR. Champagne with a big Nismo intercooler and deep-dish wheels. I would have sex with that car.

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i know that in my little town we have an r33, a few supras, and i have heard from my friends that there is a black gt4, i dont know if this is true but i asked if it looked similar to mine, but was all wheel drive and turbo and they said yes.
Turns out at Import Face-Off april 2nd, It was a 5th gen all-trac. frown.gif . I'm pissed. I was hoping to see my #1 dream car. Oh well.....one day it will happen.
Dont move to a country because of cars...Thats like moving to another state for a girl you like, but arent married or engaged too...We also have the Eclipse that they dont have
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QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Mar 26, 2006 - 3:30 AM) [snapback]413302[/snapback]
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There is a guy in my town somewhere with an R32 GTR. Champagne with a big Nismo intercooler and deep-dish wheels. I would have sex with that car.


Yeah, in seattle there are about 10 skylines, 1 i know is a GTR R34, blue, and then there is a silver GTR R33, and about 7 GTR R32s...Kent has a Evo VII, and there is a RHD MR2 Turbo...Some imported Silvias as well
quoting myself from other thread :

Certain cars that were released only in Japan and other countries besides the US, fail to meet emissions/crash test/road safety standards here in the states.

So, basically, our government believes because the car wasn't released here, it isn't safe to drive here. You have to spend insane amounts of money to get it legal, so much so that it really isn't worth the time or effort.

I think it's possible to disassemble a GT4, ship it here, then reassemble it. Swap out the VIN from an identical year celica which has been junked (salvaged) and consider your reassembled GT4 with a junk title. This wouldn't be easy, and if you got caught, you'd probably be in deep ****, but it's really the only way to get one over here, unless you "know" people.

The Skyline can be imported, and made legal in the states, asking price for one of them was between $80,000 - $100,000.

Start saving your lunch money.

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Apr 9, 2006 - 5:15 PM
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

theres actually a list of cars that have been pre-approved for importation
and the GT-4 is not on it.

I've read a lot from that site before and if i remember correctly and they havnt changed it you have to:

1. get a registered importer to submit an application for DOT approval
(this includes crash tests or a statement from the company saying the car is up to US safety standards)

2. you pay 150% of the price of the car for the application
(so say you buy a $4,000 US car, you pay $4k for the car itself and $6k for the application[i think] for a grand total [so far] of $10 grand for a 4 grand car and it hasnt even left its home country yet)

3. then you have it shipped which isnt as expensive as you think
(under $1k to have it just rolled on/off and well over $1k to put it in a container[again, this is just what i remember])

4. then the registered importer recieves it and it belongs to them until it is DOT legalized
(meaning it can pass inspection. even little things like the seatbelts, airbags, speedometer, etc. have to be changed which must cost insane amounts of cash)

5. then you have to get it registered (the DMV is a bitch)

but when its legal its legal
there are a few on this site (like 1 or 2)
http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=members&itu=3245
^legal and registered in NH
http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=members&itu=1509
^not legalized in IN

there are a couple r34 skylines around the western US ive heard
the R33 is on the already approved list but im sure registered importers will take advantage of how much your willing to pay for one and charge big money for it anyway.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Apr 14, 2006 - 2:57 PM

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>look at the evo/sti motors...4 bangers with turbos....those motors rock


Except the cost of maintaining an EJ engine, and the chance of busting a timing belt on the EVO and smashing up the valves...

Wha? What maintenance cost of an EJ motor? They are just as reliable as any normal Japanese motor... and besides - me and a couple friends can have an EJ motor out AND back into an Impreza in about 2 hours. Beats any Toyota I know for that... (but yes, it is an interferance motor...)

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Makes me glad to live in NZ we have quite relaxed importing laws and right hand drive thus allowing us all the JDM performance cars (possiably to the detrement of the local car industry) so skylines, GT-4's etc are resonably easy to get hold of. tongue.gif
woah woah woah... so there's a GT four somewhere here in good ol' indiana?!

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tcox, dont get too happy.... He is in New Zealand! I also wish we could get these cars in the USA also!!! lol
yes, there is one in IN. He brought it down through Canada and if I remember right he bought it with some front end damage. Here's the link to his profile with pics. 95WRC

This post has been edited by 94GT: Apr 18, 2006 - 7:04 AM
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yes, there is one in IN. He brought it down through Canada and if I remember right he bought it with some front end damage. Here's the link to his profile with pics. 95WRC

would you happen to know which part of indiana?

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hey,
i own the indiana GT4 .. i used to live up in northern indiana but now live in cincinnati area ..

i dont post a bunch .. car is still at shop in dubuque,ia getting fixed ..

i just turned 32 today and let me just say nothing would make me happier but to be driving my st205 tonight ..

i am super anal and consider the st205 a classic car and my body guy does not fix cars half ass so sourcing a undamaged st205 front end rad support has been a pain but i have one located in US .. i am repairing car to 100% the way it was before accident except swapping to any 98 spec parts like projectors , dash trim , etc...

car has been in US for year and a half..

i am sick of talking about legalizing topic but trust me it is so over hyped on net it is not funny .. getting car into US is much bigger issue ..







This post has been edited by FORGMANN: Apr 18, 2006 - 9:01 PM

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QUOTE(95CelicaST @ Mar 24, 2006 - 10:13 AM) [snapback]412564[/snapback]
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>Does anyone know what it would take to import one? Several thousand for shipping?


You would need to have the engine removed and shipped seperately from the body, that way you can register the body and engine as "Parts". Once it is over here you can just reinstall and register as a Kit Car, but I think you still have to pass emissions.


96 gt4 in good condition(less than 90k miles) from japan 7200USD
Shipping to a US port 1800USD to start
Customs 250-1000USD
Vehicle modifications* 5000-15000USD
210hp awd beast on US roads priceless



*numerous frame and body reinforcements necessary to make DOT legal, not to mention emmisions considering the 3rd gen 3sgte doesn't even have an egr valve(a necessity where i live)

So I recommend just importing an engine direct.
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QUOTE(FORGMANN @ Apr 18, 2006 - 9:00 PM) [snapback]423203[/snapback]
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i own the indiana GT4 .. i used to live up in northern indiana but now live in cincinnati area ..


hmm, were you located towards the northeastern or northwestern part of IN... reason i ask is because i live in the northwestern part, about 10 minutes from Notre Dame.

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