alright, lets end this on a funny note
-Rémy02SiR, 08250R
-Rémy02SiR, 08250R
crazy idea - 6G Celicas Forums
-Rémy02SiR, 08250R
hey man no hard feelins seriously. we all have our differences right?
I gotz 2 things my celi and a dream, the prob is commin up with the thrid one...
Crazy Idea .. Not as crazy as you might think... can an h22 drop into a celi .. (lude FWD / Celi FWD) yes...
the way i would start this off would be to basiacly strip down the front end of the celi ... take your h22 an its transaxle with mounts and messure everything twice... an then 10 times after that before an tapping an weldding is done... I would go with 100 percent custome axles... honda inners/toyota outers... after the engine transmission mounts are set and ready to bolt on to the frame ... an custom axles are produced.. more on to exhuause ... which should be that had to do with the right mufflure shop... an don't forget you might need a custome underbody cross memeber .. as for the transmission linkage ... make your own .. not that out of the world to do ... drop me a not if you want to know how ...
electrical ... i would goe with a full stand alone unit to handle the engine/tranny .... figuering out what sensor sends what signal to what shouldn't be that hard if you have common sense an can read... this is where you can have fun with the ignition system .. play around with timing .. your air fuel mix... have fun .. see what works for you and feels right ...
i have always like the H22 motor... response great to mods an would be a great N/A motor to drop into the celi ...
now on a side note let me through another crazy idea your way .. an rsx type-s with exstream rear end damage ... but it for a few grand .. an you have a whole front clip with a K20 you can drop into a celi .. . ;-)
the way i would start this off would be to basiacly strip down the front end of the celi ... take your h22 an its transaxle with mounts and messure everything twice... an then 10 times after that before an tapping an weldding is done... I would go with 100 percent custome axles... honda inners/toyota outers... after the engine transmission mounts are set and ready to bolt on to the frame ... an custom axles are produced.. more on to exhuause ... which should be that had to do with the right mufflure shop... an don't forget you might need a custome underbody cross memeber .. as for the transmission linkage ... make your own .. not that out of the world to do ... drop me a not if you want to know how ...
electrical ... i would goe with a full stand alone unit to handle the engine/tranny .... figuering out what sensor sends what signal to what shouldn't be that hard if you have common sense an can read... this is where you can have fun with the ignition system .. play around with timing .. your air fuel mix... have fun .. see what works for you and feels right ...
i have always like the H22 motor... response great to mods an would be a great N/A motor to drop into the celi ...
now on a side note let me through another crazy idea your way .. an rsx type-s with exstream rear end damage ... but it for a few grand .. an you have a whole front clip with a K20 you can drop into a celi .. . ;-)
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Yeah man do what you want. I think it'll be a fun project. Not as easy as the 3s swap which is becoming more common place. I mean it will be a one of a kind and it does have excellent N/a potential.
DOn't listen to all the jack@$$es on this site bashing you for original thinking. It was their thinking that kept the world flat, no overnight shipping, no aircraft, and most important, unsliced bread.
So Kudos to you and your ideas. If it works it works, and like you said swapping b/w makes of cars has been done for a long time and will continue to happen.
Ps. I honestly can't believe that this thread became a soap box for people to just bash Rayme. I mean come on, this is exactly why people leave this site and never come back. I honestly hope that most of you do the right thing and apologize for your VERY RUDE comments. VERY UNCOOL people
This post has been edited by Jeremy1210: Apr 12, 2006 - 7:53 AM
DOn't listen to all the jack@$$es on this site bashing you for original thinking. It was their thinking that kept the world flat, no overnight shipping, no aircraft, and most important, unsliced bread.
So Kudos to you and your ideas. If it works it works, and like you said swapping b/w makes of cars has been done for a long time and will continue to happen.
Ps. I honestly can't believe that this thread became a soap box for people to just bash Rayme. I mean come on, this is exactly why people leave this site and never come back. I honestly hope that most of you do the right thing and apologize for your VERY RUDE comments. VERY UNCOOL people
This post has been edited by Jeremy1210: Apr 12, 2006 - 7:53 AM
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What about the 3S-GE red-top? woudl be a much easier swap compared to a h22
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You guys complaining about Honda motors in Toyotas just because they're Honda motors are ridiculous. Quit flaming people because you have a grudge against Hondas
I'd love to have a K20 (or even a H22a or a B-series motor) in my Celica...Toyota doesn't make a N/A motor that's on the same level as the K20a in stock form. Plus I love the way Honda trannies feel...much better than the C-series and S-series transmissions in my opinion. Sure, if you don't want a N/A monster, the 3S-GTE is a good choice, but light, N/A cars are incredibly fun, especially with powerful N/A motors like the K20a.
That said, it'd be a ton of work...the K20a is quite different from the B/H-series motors, so I won't even go into that, but the H22/B-series motors have the engine and transmission on opposite sides of the Celica. For that reason, maybe a swap such as a Nissan SR20VE might be easier if you wanted something N/A and incredibly unique.
You guys complaining about Honda motors in Toyotas just because they're Honda motors are ridiculous. Quit flaming people because you have a grudge against Hondas
I'd love to have a K20 (or even a H22a or a B-series motor) in my Celica...Toyota doesn't make a N/A motor that's on the same level as the K20a in stock form. Plus I love the way Honda trannies feel...much better than the C-series and S-series transmissions in my opinion. Sure, if you don't want a N/A monster, the 3S-GTE is a good choice, but light, N/A cars are incredibly fun, especially with powerful N/A motors like the K20a.
That said, it'd be a ton of work...the K20a is quite different from the B/H-series motors, so I won't even go into that, but the H22/B-series motors have the engine and transmission on opposite sides of the Celica. For that reason, maybe a swap such as a Nissan SR20VE might be easier if you wanted something N/A and incredibly unique.
What about the 3S-GE red-top? woudl be a much easier swap compared to a h22
i think everyone can agree that most car lovers (expecially in imports) - like to see honda motors in honda cars, and toyota motors in toyota cars. The swap would ultimately be impractical (for all reasons stated above), but a good alternative is a red/or black top beams motor. Crossing brands is not really ethical in the import tuning world, at least imho, and tons of custom work would be needed to do nething like that anyway. So why not just look at a 20v 4a-ge, 5s-gte, 5s-gze, 3s-gte, 3s-ge beams (black or red)... all respectable motors, and all toyota = all easier to swap in than a random honda motor 
. Ultimately it would just be impractical, and you would never get any respect from any devoted tuner (honda fan, or toyota fan). I'd actually love to see this thread locked down by admins, just the thought is so "out-in-left-field" 
. Ultimately it would just be impractical, and you would never get any respect from any devoted tuner (honda fan, or toyota fan). I'd actually love to see this thread locked down by admins, just the thought is so "out-in-left-field"
whoever said to put an H23 in, well, bad idea. For the money you would do that swap for you wouldn't gain much, the H23 only has 160hp and after having my Prelude SI with the H23 I wasn't that impressed with it.
As for swapping an H22 in, that would be pretty cool. While I don't think I woudl do it myself, I would love to see it done and the custom work that it would take to make it possible. I hope you're a good machinist/welder or have a big wallet.
And on the money issue, I've never really understood why some people on here drop so much money in their cars with swaps and all. I would just prefer to buy a different car lol
As for swapping an H22 in, that would be pretty cool. While I don't think I woudl do it myself, I would love to see it done and the custom work that it would take to make it possible. I hope you're a good machinist/welder or have a big wallet.
And on the money issue, I've never really understood why some people on here drop so much money in their cars with swaps and all. I would just prefer to buy a different car lol
1999 Celica GT