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QUOTE(burneeed @ Apr 16, 2006 - 2:10 PM) [snapback]422212[/snapback]
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thats not even right.... I wish I had my car regged in oh or michigan frown.gif... no emissions + inspections.

well, some counties in ohio have emissions, i know my dad does, which sucks he just got a '00 mustang gt, and he cant do any exhaust for more power.
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QUOTE(burneeed @ Apr 16, 2006 - 2:05 PM) [snapback]422111[/snapback]
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Yes I know emissions is tough everywhere. I pay a guy to pass my car everytime. Do you know anyone who could pass your car?


I use to when I lived in California. Out there almost any shop can run smog. Out here theres only goverment run smog shops. Maybe two or three per major city. They have been busted so much, its a felony to bribe them. Sure i want a 3s motor. Its built alot stronger then my 5, theres a ton of parts and knowledge out there. But I'm screwed living in Az. I got alot of mileage on my car, poor so I'm going to be happy with 200-220 hp.
eh how much is the total going to be on the rip blower?

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all im going to say about the rippmods supercharger kit is

rising rate fuel regulator

that alone was enough for me to not buy it..
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QUOTE(LimitedST @ Apr 16, 2006 - 4:03 PM) [snapback]422239[/snapback]
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laugh.gif laugh.gif get both! laugh.gif laugh.gif

i have seen it done before, pretty cool, not much use now-a-days with quicker spooling turbos
I guess this is up to personal preferences.
I havent been in a supercharger car yet,
but I do like the feeling of boost on a turbo
car and the BOV smile.gif

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QUOTE(pandakid @ Apr 15, 2006 - 2:59 PM) [snapback]421919[/snapback]
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i want turbo,i love that blow-off sound biggrin.gif

amen. btw it seems to me like turbos are made 4 imports,not domestic muscle

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QUOTE(Cavanagh @ Apr 16, 2006 - 11:21 PM) [snapback]422369[/snapback]
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QUOTE(pandakid @ Apr 15, 2006 - 2:59 PM) [snapback]421919[/snapback]
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i want turbo,i love that blow-off sound biggrin.gif

amen. btw it seems to me like turbos are made 4 imports,not domestic muscle

well no, back in the 80's for one year the trans-am was a 4 cyl turbo.
and jay lenno's twin turbo small block with 1000 hp
you see more SC on domestic because of the displacement they have...can take the advantages of the SC setup better then a small displacement 4cyl....

where as a small displacement 4cylinder can utilize a turbo better imo..
You guys make some good points but don't forget about the Twinscrew supercharger. I like to call it the supercharger and turbo. Gives you supercharger power down low and turbo power up high. Here is a dyno plot at 14psi on a stock internal small port 4agze. We have a bigger blower fitted to a 7agze that we will dyno soon.



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This post has been edited by Mr2swift: Apr 23, 2006 - 2:02 AM
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QUOTE(Mr2swift @ Apr 23, 2006 - 12:00 AM) [snapback]425048[/snapback]
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You guys make some good points but don't forget about the Twinscrew supercharger. I like to call it the supercharger and turbo. Gives you supercharger power down low and turbo power up high. Here is a dyno plot at 14psi on a stock internal small port 4agze. We have a bigger blower fitted to a 7agze that we will dyno soon.



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whats the specs on the 7agze and whats it going into? corrola ,mr2, celica?

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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QUOTE(Cavanagh @ Apr 16, 2006 - 11:21 PM) [snapback]422369[/snapback]
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QUOTE(pandakid @ Apr 15, 2006 - 2:59 PM) [snapback]421919[/snapback]
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i want turbo,i love that blow-off sound biggrin.gif

amen. btw it seems to me like turbos are made 4 imports,not domestic muscle

well no, back in the 80's for one year the trans-am was a 4 cyl turbo.
and jay lenno's twin turbo small block with 1000 hp


actually, it was the mustang that had a turbo 4cyl in it

the TTA-Turbo Trans Am had a turbo v6 from the buick grand national(not sure if its the same engine, but its close enough)

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whats the specs on the 7agze and whats it going into? corrola ,mr2, celica?


7agze in an Mr2 with stock US 4agze pistons, stock rods cryogened & modified to full floating, 7afe stock head gasket, large port 4agze head and manifold. I know the stockers are thin, but I have been waiting to see how week they really are if they are so week. 200rwhp has been proven to last so 250rwhp is about the limits I am willing to push them to. Oh and the blower is rated at 400hp which is nice. Here is my last dyno untuned. I hope to get to the dyno by the end of the week or next week to get it tuned. The 4agze is a beast with the Twinscrew and this is with the smaller unit so the Bigger Blower and 7agze should be a real nice combo.



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This post has been edited by Mr2swift: Apr 27, 2006 - 4:59 AM
thats not too shabby at all ron. looks like there is quite a bit of tuning left to do in it also.
i dont know anything about the "A" series, so dont mind the dumb ? but why start the runs so late?
is she set up to be a "screamer"?
gotta love a torque "line".. its not even a curve..lol

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QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 27, 2006 - 1:16 PM) [snapback]427141[/snapback]
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thats not too shabby at all ron. looks like there is quite a bit of tuning left to do in it also.
i dont know anything about the "A" series, so dont mind the dumb ? but why start the runs so late?
is she set up to be a "screamer"?
gotta love a torque "line".. its not even a curve..lol



The dyno operator is constantly starting my dyno kind of late. Next dyno will surely have the session start earlier in the rpm range. Yes I think I have a bit more tuning to do especially since I backed the timing down up top to 18 degrees. I have heard many running 23-28 degrees up top with no detonation. Of course every engine is different, but I feel I have some room to play with timing and fuel wise. I wanted to make a Twincrew kit for the 5sfe as well and still have the mock up engine, but it seemed as if people would rather opt for the 3sgte swap so I scrapped the project. Amazing torque output your 5sfe is making by the way.

Ron