i know about the 3sgte engines u can use to swap but wut other engines can be used to swap...any that arent AWD?
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doesnt matter if its all wheel drive. The way the 3sgte mounts in an alltrac is the same way it would mount for front wheel drive. Your best bet for power and potential is a 3sgte.
Other motor swaps that I have seen, that are simple.
4age - best is the 20v silver top
4agze - super charged motor that was in mkI Mr2's
3sge - NA Motors thats in some jdm yotas
3sgte -
Other motor swaps that I have seen, that are simple.
4age - best is the 20v silver top
4agze - super charged motor that was in mkI Mr2's
3sge - NA Motors thats in some jdm yotas
3sgte -
BANNED!
i know it mounts the same..i was just tryin to save some hassle in changin my rear axle and addin cv joints to make it a awd...but i really think its worth it...since i met up with an old friend who has done about 12 engine swaps and is going to school for engine mechanic...and other than the 3sgte, whats argueably the 2nd best?
You can swap in the V6's from the Camry's or the V8's from the Lexus'. It all depends on how much money you got to burn on a swap.
it'd be pretty damn cool to see a v8 rwd swap done on a celica. can't imagine the $$ though. prolly easier to buy a mustang and swap a celica's body panels onto it.
it'd also be cool to see one of these:
http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85523&x=7
haha, that engine is more than our curb weight
it'd also be cool to see one of these:
http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85523&x=7
haha, that engine is more than our curb weight
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http://media.putfile.com/V8-Celica-GT4
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it'd be pretty damn cool to see a v8 rwd swap done on a celica.
it'd be pretty damn cool to see a v8 rwd swap done on a celica.
http://media.putfile.com/V8-Celica-GT4
Some one really needs to venture into the V6Celica
The engine weight of the 1MZFE is about the same as the 3SGTE
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
For more power the addition of a TRD Supercharger would provide it.
Unique and Special, Just being able to say my Celica is a V6 would be really cool.
The engine weight of the 1MZFE is about the same as the 3SGTE
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
For more power the addition of a TRD Supercharger would provide it.
Unique and Special, Just being able to say my Celica is a V6 would be really cool.
that celica v8 is tite...haha...and yeah a celica with a v6 would be somethin that i would wanna see...and burneed earlier u said it doesnt matter if its awd, ur not tryin to say that u can put in the 3sgte w/o converting are you?
You use the 3S-GTE with a Front Wheel drive transmission such as the stock GT tranny or you can use an MR2 MR tranny and convert it to FWD, or a Solara tranny, etc. Sell the tranny that comes with your clip/engine set to the All-Trac guys.
QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ May 15, 2009 - 4:02 AM)hey, nice mod does it come in hetero?Need parts?I'm parting out a '94 ST
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Huhummmm
look bellow (sig)
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Some one really needs to venture into the V6Celica
The engine weight of the 1MZFE is about the same as the 3SGTE
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
For more power the addition of a TRD Supercharger would provide it.
Unique and Special, Just being able to say my Celica is a V6 would be really cool.
Some one really needs to venture into the V6Celica
The engine weight of the 1MZFE is about the same as the 3SGTE
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
For more power the addition of a TRD Supercharger would provide it.
Unique and Special, Just being able to say my Celica is a V6 would be really cool.
Huhummmm
look bellow (sig)
----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------JDM 96 MR2-T Faster - 94 Celica GT 3MZFE Funner - 99 Rav 4 AWD Handy
just for an overview
v6 - 1mz-3mz same block that bolts to the E153 tranny which is essentialy the same as the alltrac/gt-four transmission (only fwd instead of awd) that bolts up to our chassis, with the right combo of axles (mr2 inner, st185 outter). Only other thing to get it mounted is the passenger side mount which needs to be modified to fit to the engine. other than that, a faily simple bracket (bolted to the cross member) that will hold up the axle carrier/mount. The rest of the magic is in the wiring and small details such as returness fuel system, exhaust routing, etc...
and you get a ~200hp ~200trq reliable bone stock motor that can get you 30+ mpg and that parts are readily avaible at your local junker for about the same price of your average 3s swap, or if you're smart about it, it can be much cheaper. only drawback is the r&d behind it all.
v6 - 1mz-3mz same block that bolts to the E153 tranny which is essentialy the same as the alltrac/gt-four transmission (only fwd instead of awd) that bolts up to our chassis, with the right combo of axles (mr2 inner, st185 outter). Only other thing to get it mounted is the passenger side mount which needs to be modified to fit to the engine. other than that, a faily simple bracket (bolted to the cross member) that will hold up the axle carrier/mount. The rest of the magic is in the wiring and small details such as returness fuel system, exhaust routing, etc...
and you get a ~200hp ~200trq reliable bone stock motor that can get you 30+ mpg and that parts are readily avaible at your local junker for about the same price of your average 3s swap, or if you're smart about it, it can be much cheaper. only drawback is the r&d behind it all.
----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------JDM 96 MR2-T Faster - 94 Celica GT 3MZFE Funner - 99 Rav 4 AWD Handy
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I highly doubt that.
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The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
I highly doubt that.
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having done a massive load of research and part hunting, i highly support that
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I highly doubt that.
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The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
I highly doubt that.
having done a massive load of research and part hunting, i highly support that
----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------JDM 96 MR2-T Faster - 94 Celica GT 3MZFE Funner - 99 Rav 4 AWD Handy
okay..besides the 3sgte wut other engines(besides the v6 or v8) have the most power potential for the st?
V6 / 3sgte are gonna be your high horsepower swaps.
FYI: V6 is alot cheaper swap by far, my 1mz was 50$.
DTE
FYI: V6 is alot cheaper swap by far, my 1mz was 50$.
DTE
I am a thief.do not buy anything from me.
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if u didnt wunna mess around with the S series engines and/or the undocumented (hopefully that'll change soon) v6 swap...go for 4agze for power. u can always ditch the sc and turbo it later on. a good side to this is u'll be able to use ur motor mounts and "possibly" some other things from the 7afe.
bboy
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okay..besides the 3sgte wut other engines(besides the v6 or v8) have the most power potential for the st?
okay..besides the 3sgte wut other engines(besides the v6 or v8) have the most power potential for the st?
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Other motor swaps that I have seen, that are simple.
4age - best is the 20v silver top
4agze - super charged motor that was in mkI Mr2's
3sge - NA Motors thats in some jdm yotas
3sgte -
Other motor swaps that I have seen, that are simple.
4age - best is the 20v silver top
4agze - super charged motor that was in mkI Mr2's
3sge - NA Motors thats in some jdm yotas
3sgte -
if u didnt wunna mess around with the S series engines and/or the undocumented (hopefully that'll change soon) v6 swap...go for 4agze for power. u can always ditch the sc and turbo it later on. a good side to this is u'll be able to use ur motor mounts and "possibly" some other things from the 7afe.
bboy
..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi..
yeah more and more im leaning toward the 4agze swap...and im glad i can ditch the sc if i want...but i dunno..i have some time to make up my mind
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I waqs referring to price of the engine. Not the whole swap, Unless the U.S. wants to mess with the 1st gen 3SGE
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I highly doubt that.
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The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
I highly doubt that.
I waqs referring to price of the engine. Not the whole swap, Unless the U.S. wants to mess with the 1st gen 3SGE
okay...say i decide to get the 4agze swap...do i need the whole front clip since it mouts rite in the st...or just the engine trans ecu and wiring?
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Just to verify, are you supporting his quote or my quote? If you're supporting his quote, then obviously you've haven't done enough research or the right research.
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The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
I highly doubt that.
having done a massive load of research and part hunting, i highly support that
Just to verify, are you supporting his quote or my quote? If you're supporting his quote, then obviously you've haven't done enough research or the right research.
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So you could get 1MZ-FE's for less than $650!?!? If thats true, then I paid way too much for my 3rd gen 3S-GE.
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The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
I highly doubt that.
I waqs referring to price of the engine. Not the whole swap, Unless the U.S. wants to mess with the 1st gen 3SGE
So you could get 1MZ-FE's for less than $650!?!? If thats true, then I paid way too much for my 3rd gen 3S-GE.
Oh and btw, a V6 swap on a Celica has been done already. Do some research and you'll find out about it. 
Adrian Someguy (forgot last name) did it to his 5GC
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Damn! $650 I need to do some more research then
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So you could get 1MZ-FE's for less than $650!?!? If thats true, then I paid way too much for my 3rd gen 3S-GE.
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The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
I highly doubt that.
I waqs referring to price of the engine. Not the whole swap, Unless the U.S. wants to mess with the 1st gen 3SGE
So you could get 1MZ-FE's for less than $650!?!? If thats true, then I paid way too much for my 3rd gen 3S-GE.
Damn! $650 I need to do some more research then
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obviously i'm supporting his quote, not hard to figure that out
please share with us your vaste knowlege about the v6 swap, this should be good
just for facts
i paid $750 for my 2004 3MZ w/ 22k KMS (thats in canadian dollars)
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Just to verify, are you supporting his quote or my quote? If you're supporting his quote, then obviously you've haven't done enough research or the right research.
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having done a massive load of research and part hunting, i highly support that
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I highly doubt that.
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QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 30, 2006 - 7:04 AM) [snapback]428112[/snapback]
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The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
I highly doubt that.
having done a massive load of research and part hunting, i highly support that
Just to verify, are you supporting his quote or my quote? If you're supporting his quote, then obviously you've haven't done enough research or the right research.obviously i'm supporting his quote, not hard to figure that out
please share with us your vaste knowlege about the v6 swap, this should be good
just for facts
i paid $750 for my 2004 3MZ w/ 22k KMS (thats in canadian dollars)
----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------JDM 96 MR2-T Faster - 94 Celica GT 3MZFE Funner - 99 Rav 4 AWD Handy
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Adrian - aka SBcelicatgt on MR2OC.com - 97+ 1mzfe with a 99 solora tranny, clever guy, also very easy to talk to and very helpful, drives a nice 5th gen
I did my research and i positive i know much more than you think about the v6 swap
please stop being a pain
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Oh and btw, a V6 swap on a Celica has been done already. Do some research and you'll find out about it.
Oh and btw, a V6 swap on a Celica has been done already. Do some research and you'll find out about it.
Adrian - aka SBcelicatgt on MR2OC.com - 97+ 1mzfe with a 99 solora tranny, clever guy, also very easy to talk to and very helpful, drives a nice 5th gen
I did my research and i positive i know much more than you think about the v6 swap
please stop being a pain
----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------JDM 96 MR2-T Faster - 94 Celica GT 3MZFE Funner - 99 Rav 4 AWD Handy
i picked up my v6 on friday for $500 bishes.....the race is on =]
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This post has been edited by thatcelicaguy: Apr 30, 2006 - 8:31 PM
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Like I stated before, I just wanted to make sure. I don't see the harm in that.
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d00d, I never once stated that I have vaste knowledge on the V6 swap. But I know for a fact that it's not as simple as a 3S-GE swap. So if you want to argue that, go right ahead.
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Kudos to you.
This post has been edited by BLADDER_MASTER: Apr 30, 2006 - 8:36 PM
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Like I stated before, I just wanted to make sure. I don't see the harm in that.
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d00d, I never once stated that I have vaste knowledge on the V6 swap. But I know for a fact that it's not as simple as a 3S-GE swap. So if you want to argue that, go right ahead.
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i paid $750 for my 2004 3MZ w/ 22k KMS (thats in canadian dollars)
i paid $750 for my 2004 3MZ w/ 22k KMS (thats in canadian dollars)
Kudos to you.
This post has been edited by BLADDER_MASTER: Apr 30, 2006 - 8:36 PM
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You more than likely do, but not everyone does their research like you do. And I was just responding to those who wanted to see a V6 swap done, just the same way how I responded to those who wanted to see a V8 swap done.
Being a pain?...right...
This post has been edited by BLADDER_MASTER: Apr 30, 2006 - 8:45 PM
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Adrian - aka SBcelicatgt on MR2OC.com - 97+ 1mzfe with a 99 solora tranny, clever guy, also very easy to talk to and very helpful, drives a nice 5th gen
I did my research and i positive i know much more than you think about the v6 swap
please stop being a pain
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Oh and btw, a V6 swap on a Celica has been done already. Do some research and you'll find out about it.
Oh and btw, a V6 swap on a Celica has been done already. Do some research and you'll find out about it.
Adrian - aka SBcelicatgt on MR2OC.com - 97+ 1mzfe with a 99 solora tranny, clever guy, also very easy to talk to and very helpful, drives a nice 5th gen
I did my research and i positive i know much more than you think about the v6 swap
please stop being a pain
You more than likely do, but not everyone does their research like you do. And I was just responding to those who wanted to see a V6 swap done, just the same way how I responded to those who wanted to see a V8 swap done.
Being a pain?...right...
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Hot damn! Where you find a deal like that? Was it just the engine alone or was it engine, tranny, harness, ecu, etc?
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FYI: V6 is alot cheaper swap by far, my 1mz was 50$.
DTE
FYI: V6 is alot cheaper swap by far, my 1mz was 50$.
DTE
Hot damn! Where you find a deal like that? Was it just the engine alone or was it engine, tranny, harness, ecu, etc?
-'bladdermaster'+
Just to verify, are you supporting his quote or my quote? If you're supporting his quote, then obviously you've haven't done enough research or the right research.
i'm sorry but i felt very offended, it's quite clear you are the one lacking the research here when it comes to 1mz swap prices
This post has been edited by K-ESD: May 1, 2006 - 6:46 AM
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Just to verify, are you supporting his quote or my quote? If you're supporting his quote, then obviously you've haven't done enough research or the right research.
i'm sorry but i felt very offended, it's quite clear you are the one lacking the research here when it comes to 1mz swap prices
This post has been edited by K-ESD: May 1, 2006 - 6:46 AM
----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------JDM 96 MR2-T Faster - 94 Celica GT 3MZFE Funner - 99 Rav 4 AWD Handy