So I've got a really easy question for the mechanics out there. How necessary is it to have that small rubber seal that goes around the timing belt cover? Mine got killed when I took the cover off, and I'm wondering if it's worth paying for, and waiting 4 days to get a new one, or if I can just go without it.
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You cxan probably get away without using one, but it is there for a reason. And simply for peace of mind, I would always fit one myself.
Gary
Gary
1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list
Okay, nevermind I guess. I was willing to wait 5 days to get it, but my dad was impatient...so we just used Goop as a seal...lol 
how had was it to change it? How much was the total too? O and would u wanna do a how-to?? lol Thanks
-John
-John
It wasn't too hard. It took me and my dad a while though, only cause it was the first timing belt we'd ever replaced on a Toyota.(it was my first ever) The whole thing cost $31.(the price of the belt) I don't know about doing a how-to article...maybe I would if I'd taken pictures while I was doing it...plus I felt like quite the amature myself. If you're planning on doing one, I'd be more than willing to tell you what I can though. 
If you're planning on doing one, I'd be more than willing to tell you what I can though.
im surprised you didnt change the waterpump while you were doing the belt.
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As above, you didn't change the water pump
What about the belt tensioner?
Gary
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It wasn't too hard. It took me and my dad a while though, only cause it was the first timing belt we'd ever replaced on a Toyota.(it was my first ever) The whole thing cost $31.(the price of the belt) I don't know about doing a how-to article...maybe I would if I'd taken pictures while I was doing it...plus I felt like quite the amature myself. If you're planning on doing one, I'd be more than willing to tell you what I can though.
It wasn't too hard. It took me and my dad a while though, only cause it was the first timing belt we'd ever replaced on a Toyota.(it was my first ever) The whole thing cost $31.(the price of the belt) I don't know about doing a how-to article...maybe I would if I'd taken pictures while I was doing it...plus I felt like quite the amature myself.
If you're planning on doing one, I'd be more than willing to tell you what I can though. As above, you didn't change the water pump
What about the belt tensioner?Gary
1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list
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of course I didn't change the water pump...it hasn't gone out....yet. lol =] Which ones the belt tensioner?
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As above, you didn't change the water pump What about the belt tensioner?
Gary
As above, you didn't change the water pump
What about the belt tensioner?Gary
of course I didn't change the water pump...it hasn't gone out....yet. lol =] Which ones the belt tensioner?
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the thing thats gonna start squeeling then seize in about 10K miles (or less) causing your Tbelt to jump teeth or break and leave you stranded by where jesus lost a sandle.
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As above, you didn't change the water pump What about the belt tensioner?
Gary
=] Which ones the belt tensioner?As above, you didn't change the water pump
What about the belt tensioner?Gary
the thing thats gonna start squeeling then seize in about 10K miles (or less) causing your Tbelt to jump teeth or break and leave you stranded by where jesus lost a sandle.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
Any mechanic worth his salt will change the water pump and tensioner when swapping a cam belt.
Gary
Gary
1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list
harsh words WRC... but its true. oh well i guess. its your car not ours.
94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.
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Well, I'm not a afraid to admit it, I'm no salty mechanic. My dad and I work on cars for the fun of it, and I continue to learn as a go. Considering I own a 86 CRX, a 90 CRx, a 91 Civic, and now a 94 Celica, and not one of them was running when I bought it, and now they're all running, plus have died several times, and been fixed since then, and seeing as I've probably spent less on all of them put together than you have on just your exterior mods, I think I'm doing pretty well.
Anyway, I'm not offended, if you'd like to actually tell me what your talking about, instead of throwing pithy comments, I'd appreciate it. I just replaced it, and know what everything looks like, I just hardly know names for any parts, so you're welcome to enlighten me...you just might have to use small words. 
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Any mechanic worth his salt will change the water pump and tensioner when swapping a cam belt.
Gary
Any mechanic worth his salt will change the water pump and tensioner when swapping a cam belt.
Gary
Well, I'm not a afraid to admit it, I'm no salty mechanic. My dad and I work on cars for the fun of it, and I continue to learn as a go. Considering I own a 86 CRX, a 90 CRx, a 91 Civic, and now a 94 Celica, and not one of them was running when I bought it, and now they're all running, plus have died several times, and been fixed since then, and seeing as I've probably spent less on all of them put together than you have on just your exterior mods, I think I'm doing pretty well.
Anyway, I'm not offended, if you'd like to actually tell me what your talking about, instead of throwing pithy comments, I'd appreciate it. I just replaced it, and know what everything looks like, I just hardly know names for any parts, so you're welcome to enlighten me...you just might have to use small words.
That small rubber seal is just to keep water and other road crap from getting inside of the cover and contaminating the belts and pulleys.
Think of it as a oil drain plug gasket. Sure you could go with out it but there is no guarantee that oil wont get out.
Think of it as a oil drain plug gasket. Sure you could go with out it but there is no guarantee that oil wont get out.
The biggest reason people change the water pump with the timing belt is because when the water pump does go out the timing belt will go with it. Thats exactly what happend to mine last year.
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Hmmm.....that makes sense. I think that's what happened to an old tercel I used to have. The engine was fine though. Anyway, the girl I just bought it from said it was replaced a while ago, so we'll just have to hope it lasts another year till I get another engine in there, won't we.
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The biggest reason people change the water pump with the timing belt is because when the water pump does go out the timing belt will go with it. Thats exactly what happend to mine last year.
The biggest reason people change the water pump with the timing belt is because when the water pump does go out the timing belt will go with it. Thats exactly what happend to mine last year.
Hmmm.....that makes sense. I think that's what happened to an old tercel I used to have. The engine was fine though. Anyway, the girl I just bought it from said it was replaced a while ago, so we'll just have to hope it lasts another year till I get another engine in there, won't we.