To each his own. This thread will go nowhere.

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Heres your first mistake, YOU decided to compare a gigantic boat to creating inanimate buildings. I did not do that, I dont know why your making comparisons between things that you can go see and touch to something that doesnt exist. Your argument is absolutely pointless to make. Do I even have to get into the fact that animals need to eat and go to the bathroom? The disease, malnutrition and plain old stentch of that boat isnt even given a thought. What logic lies behind faith?

And your 100% correct, religion is based on faith. Not evidence. If people of faith want to argue in the realm of science, then argue with evidence.

Finally - you cannot prove the existence of god by saying people ask for prayers. What kind of argument is that? The 4 or 5 threads that exist with people asking for support means exactly what in the real world of facts & evidence? It means nothing and this type of argument is not true or valid.

If people want to debate this I'm fine with it, however learn to do so in a manner which actually holds up.

You cannot argue a point with "well these ppl believe, so it must be true."
You cannot argue "its not disproven so it must be true."

But your right, this will go no where.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 21, 2006 - 2:09 PM

i thought it was a good movie! lol

but my girlfriend didnt understand, neither did i but they did do alot of explaning in the movie so i enjoyed it, kinda sumthin to think about lol

oh and i didnt understand why they were in france and eveyone spoke spainish lol, but i only took spainish so maybe french is the same lol

can really argue with a guy who has a big "jesus" sticker on the side of his car.

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exactly,

and all this fuss that the vatican is on about, what have they got to hide by this movie being released.

I liked the movie, very noticable differences, but they couldn't do the whole book in a movie less than 5-6hrs long

everyone is going to have an opinion, and each to their own.

i wonder if they'll make anymore of dan browns books into films

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WHHHAT? someone has that on a celica?

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i'd like to see them make angels and demons. i liked that book a lot.

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Yeah my point exactly. Nobody who honestly believes in that stuff can sit and have a legitimate argument because theres really no argument FOR the book/belief. So instead excuses like what he said are used, and stuff like "god has a plan." Whats his plan? To alienate all his believers with death dying and destruction. Oh wait thats the devil. Well if god is all knowing and all powerful he would have known prior to the devil that it was going to happen and could have saved the world from all that. Should I keep going?

Way off topic but as soon as this thread was made it was inevitable. But spanish in france? I never heard spanish in the movie.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 21, 2006 - 5:20 PM

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no.
lets just let this thread die.

Spanish and french are based upon the same language (latin i believe right?) so they are very similar in sound and in some ways makeup, as is italian to a point.

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Silas- the albino spoke Spanish.
THe movie didnt get into him too much. His father was a drunk and beat his mother and blamed her for having an albino child- one night the father killed the mother he beat her so badly. So Silas ended up stabbing his father to death. Then he runs away but gets made fun of by everyone because he is an albino. He gets into some trouble ends up in jail. There is some kind of earthquake and he flees the jail and ends up being nursed back to health by Bishop Aringarosa in Spain. That is why he speaks spanish.

The Da Vinci Code staring Tom Hanks, directed by Ron Howard will soon be released in the first part of this year (May 19). This movie will have the potential to deceive billions of the worlds population. The story line attacks the very heart of the Gospel and attempts to destroy the very nature and character of the Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of God. (Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against His anointed? Psalm 2:1, 2)

Satan knows his time is about up and now he will attempt to take one of his best shots by enlisting all of hell to belch out its worse deception in that of stripping Jesus Christ of His Di vine nature and turning him into a mere man who secretly marries Mary Magdalene. To add insult to injury the story depicts the idea that certain shadowy Christian groups for 2,000 years have purposely and secretly hidden this so called fact behind the scenes and thus it is finally revealed in a coded message buried in Leonardo Da Vincis painting. Even the movie trailer for this story presents it as the truth finally revealed about Jesus! (this is just what the Islamic Fascists need to give added credence to their bloody, destructive campaign of global terror!)

It is time for Christians (the Body of Christ) everywhere to rise up and expose this lie from the pit of hell that will be perpetuated on the whole world in just a couple of short months. This is no time to back down in the day of battle. It is a time to pray and fast like never before that God will raise up a standard against the enemy as he comes in like a flood. Satan always overplays his hand and once again he is about to overplay it big time because as usual he overplays it right into Gods plan to present the truth to the whole world. And thi s Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come Matthew 24:14 Oswald Chambers states in his timeless writing My Utmost For His Highest Our calling is not primarily to be holy men and women but to be proclaimers of the Gospel of God. The one all-important thing is that the Gospel of God should be recognized as the abiding reality Yet we have to ask ourselves today when this abiding reality comes under direct attack who will defend it? The answer can only be that those of us who have been transformed by its truth for eternity will and must defend it here and now.

We can only say about Tom Hanks & Ron Howard Father forgive them for they know not what they do but to the enemy of the cross we can only declare to him, go ahead take your best shot because your time is up and you will soon be cast into the lake of fire."


The movie and book is fiction, but to alot of lost people, they will be decieved into thinking its true. Flame me or whatever, but this is my stand. I am a Youth Pastor, father, and husband. I will stand on the Bible,the infalable word of God. It is still as real today as it ever has been. Sorry if i offended anyone, but what the movie is saying about my Lord offends me.

k wtf

wow, a 3rd page. okay... this movie is fiction. that means it is not true. its not supposed to offend anyone. and as for the religion battle.... i'm not trying to convert anyone's religion. and everyone needs to stop trying to change everyone else's beliefs. can't we all just get along? there is some truth to the bible, yes. religion says god created man. science says man was created through evolution. that symbol of the fish with jesus (you see on some cars) is saying that religion and science can co-exist.... the theory that man (and other creatures) evolved from sea creatures, but then what did those creatures evolve from? and those before them? evolution can only go so far back. life had to have started somehow. angels and demons mentions some stuff about god and science being able to co-exist peacefully. that was a pretty good book too. even better than the da vinci code imo. they should also make that into a movie.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: May 21, 2006 - 7:10 PM

The thing that everybody seems to miss in all of this off the subject posting is that, when it all boils down, everyone here is a person who has feelings. I think i can say Everybody here wants to be treated with respect, and nobody likes to hear an attack about their core beliefs. It's my understanding that the bible tells us to "do unto others as you would have done unto you", and I honestly believe that rule, regadless of what my viewpoints on religion are... I also understand that the Bible says not to pass judgement onto other people, and I also try to live my life this way. Hopefully everyone here feels the same, and put into perspective of how not everybody thinks the same, holds the same "value system", and therefore arent going to see eye to eye on somthing so personal and held dear... So think of this before everybody tries to defend their beliefs or acuse others of being ignorant. life's too short to have it matter that much

whatever, everyone has different beliefs and whatever else. we're never going to settle on one true belief. there is always going to be debates.. so deal with it people.

even if this movie does go against everything you believe in, it's still a good movie.

get over it.

I think you should all die.

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this describes the bible perfectly thank you pastor.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 21, 2006 - 7:45 PM

Supersprynt, you should be ashamed of yourself. How do you get off telling an extremely religious person like Daniel there is no God? The existance of a Superior Deity cannot be proved or disproved. So you too, have stated fiction as fact.

You've probably never met Dan. You probably never will. Who gives a **** if he wants to say something is fact without proof? Do you think belittling his beliefs will turn him into an atheist like you? It won't accomplish anything except making you look like an insensitive jerk.

infallibility, inferribility.... makes all the difference between many branches of religion - believe what you want, just dont force your beliefs upon others - have respect and tolerance for others viewpoints even if you dont exactly agree with them...that would be the divine way to deal with it - now flame on!