elvasoshexai

#1

ok... has anyone else had this problem:

installed new kyb gr-2 struts and eibach sportlines springs...

my drop isn't even ><

rear gaps are 2fingers wide

front is almost 4 fingers wide

bad install or??

i'm on 17x7 wheels w/ 38offset and 215/40/17 tires

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LewFX

#2

wait til they get settled in...should be another .5" to 1"

elvasoshexai

#3

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wait til they get settled in...should be another .5" to 1"

it's been over a week now. people said it should be fine right from the start?

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devilsden97

#4

not sitting on the struts right????

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Manta5x

#5

the back sits lower than the front?

FlamingCelica

#6

>>Pics might could help?

~FlamingCelica>>

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devilsden97

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the back sits lower than the front?

put the rear springs in the front and visa versa (i actually dont think they would fit, so basicly its impossible, but im not definate)

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elvasoshexai

#8

i'll try and get pics tomorrow... i was hoping it's just cause it's not settled.. but it seems like it's not hte case

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My2Celi

#9

hey im gettin that too on my tanabe springs, but its only on the rear tho. i can put 3 fingers on the driver side. the passenger rear is like 4 fingers. its been mths now. i check and thers nothing i see that is wrong. its sitting right and everything.

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Tech9ine

#10

that doesnt sound right, i dont even remember having 4 fingers before my springs. That sounds like a problem with the initial install, not with settling. I just installed my teins 3 days ago, and my front passenger is a little higher than drivers side. I think your problem is a little different than mine though.

elvasoshexai

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that doesnt sound right, i dont even remember having 4 fingers before my springs. That sounds like a problem with the initial install, not with settling. I just installed my teins 3 days ago, and my front passenger is a little higher than drivers side. I think your problem is a little different than mine though.

before the drop i could basically fit my entire hand in... hah

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trdproven

#12

Actually, the drop should have been correct since install. Now, comparing the back to the front, the front might be slightly lower because of the weight of the car. That is why retailers for example, the eibachs and trds say 1-1.5. My front trds are 1.5 and the back came out to 1. So you actually should not wait more than a good day of driving. Unless install is slightly off or the product(s) might have a defect.

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elvasoshexai

#13

ok... i am 100% sure the drop is uneven.. because i can barely fit 2 figers in the rear and i can fit like almost 4 fingers in the front... but here is a side view picture of the car and it looks fine??.. i dunno.. maybe i need a closer up picture showing my fingers in the gap?



This post has been edited by elvasoshexai: Jun 24, 2006 - 8:55 PM

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FlamingCelica

#14

>>Hmm.... it looks fine to me, since the celica has a small agressive stance at stock a 1.5 inch drop all around would still keep it at an angle would it not? Other than that you could just being a little over critical of it? Ill probably be critical of my Tein S-Techs when i get them put on. Maybe the up close pic could help if you still think it looks wrong.

~FlamingCelica>>

This post has been edited by FlamingCelica: Jun 24, 2006 - 11:49 PM

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soulshadow

#15

The front will always be lower than the back, because the back hardly weighs anything. Plus some springs actually lower the front more than the back. IF you jack the front you will notice that its super heavy if you jack the back its super light. Hence put more air into the front and less in the back for tires.

trdproven

#16

yesiree!

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Digndoug

#17

The Drop will be lower in the back, it is how the suspension is designed. Mine wasnt fully droped until about 6 months.

trdproven

#18

Actually it should settle in after a bit of driving. A car is not light as you think especially on the springs. I don't think retailers wanna say see results in six months. We as customers don't want to wait that long either. you should see results after driving it for a short time. I've never heard of this scenario before but unless your shocks are weak already. As digndoug says, suspension is designed to be lower in the back, which I can say can be true too, and that is the way most new cars are designed, but spring manufacturers have already researched and tested spring design to anticipate that. For the most part, why do you think most springs have a lower drop in the front than the rear. then again, if that doesnt compensate, I've seen most cars drop the way they are suppose to.

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Coomer

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The front will always be lower than the back, because the back hardly weighs anything. Plus some springs actually lower the front more than the back. IF you jack the front you will notice that its super heavy if you jack the back its super light. Hence put more air into the front and less in the back for tires.

Spring manufacturers take this into account and develop products with different front and rear spring rates.

I know exactly what you're talking about and had the same problem. Time didn't seem to help, so my good friend Mr. Sawsall and I went to work, cutting a coil off of each of the front springs to make the car sit even. Now I'm very happy with the drop...and cutting off an extra coil didn't seem to affect handling all that much.

Here's one side done and the other side untouched:

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elvasoshexai

#20

hm.. i've driven the car about 300miles already... it seems to have dropped about... 1 finger width... hope i don't need to resolve to cutting...

reason i got the sportlines was i liked how all the cars i saw had a nice even drop

shouldn't be my struts since they are brand new as well

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JesterDC

#21

Celicas have weight distribution of about 65F/35R. Having the suspension higher in the back on FWD cars is good. read this http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=ST...t=0#entry447320 to find out why.

elvasoshexai

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Celicas have weight distribution of about 65F/35R. Having the suspension higher in the back on FWD cars is good. read this http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=ST...t=0#entry447320 to find out why.

problem now is it's higher in the front =(

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JesterDC

#23

sorry man I must have misunderstood something. Maybe you should try just reinstalling them and be very careful with every step. I wonder if anyone else has had problems like this before?

elvasoshexai

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sorry man I must have misunderstood something. Maybe you should try just reinstalling them and be very careful with every step. I wonder if anyone else has had problems like this before?

i had my mechanic install these... normally his work is really good... but i guess i'll have to take it back to him... too bad we have a long weekend here =/ can't bring it back until next weekend

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BluuFire

#25

I have the exact same setup as you and mine sat a little uneven too. The one thing I did was take them off and put them back on making sure everything was in the right place as I put them on and when I lowered the car, there was no more uneveness... You might just try taking them off and reinstalling carefully... Other than that, I would guess it was some defect in the design. But thats just my .02 cents. Hope you get it fixed

trdproven

#26

yea, like i said earlier, you might need to reinstall them.

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elvasoshexai

#27

here's a better pic:
front:


rear:


gonna take it back to mechanic on friday. if still no good then i'm gonna contact eibach

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Delta_Phoenix

#28

I just installed my Sportlines and have the same case. The rear is lower than the front, and I only got about a 1" drop in the front. Before installation, I measured the distance from the ground to the peak of the fender's curve, and got 26" on the front (didn't measure the rear). After installation, the rear is at 24½" (which is correct if it was initially at 26"), and the front is at 25". I do have some damage to the front passenger fender, but still came out with 25" on both sides.

I can get 2 fingers in the rear gap uncomfortably, and 3 in the front. The drop is even all around, with no variance between the driver and passenger side. I was hoping for results like Coomer or presure2 acheived with their Sportlines, but so far I haven't gotten it. That extra .5" in the front would be nice. Unfortunately, according to Eibach's site, it says that Sportlines are "pre-set" and that the only settling that will occur will be very minimal and will only come from the spring mating to the rubber.

This post has been edited by Delta_Phoenix: Jul 5, 2006 - 11:24 AM

elvasoshexai

#29

i talked with eibach... and they said there is only 2 possibilities.. shocks are bad or springs are bad...

i got kyb gr-2s and eibach sportllines all around... so which of the 2 has a higher possibility of being defective?

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nik

#30

i put eibach pro's with kyb gr2's like 3 years ago i measured and the front fender has a slight different radious ie its bigger because you have to turn your front tires so there is about an inch or more diff on a stock celica from the tire to the fender on the front and rear

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