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Topic #38936 54 posts Started by rayneezy23
the geo, when stock with 2 fat chicks in it in addition to me, pulled on a mid 90's 4 door white civic with EASE from a 20mph roll. i had just finished a right turn, and i saw the asshole that had been tailgating me coming up in my mirror. so i pegged the gas. he caught up even and then fell behind by 1/2 a length. by that time i was doing 5 over the speed limit so i let off, he kept going a car length then turned left.


similar thing happened to an OLD camry that had been tailgating me then tried to cut infront of me on the shoulder approaching an overpass.

2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
...wait...what were you doing in a geo...with 2 fat chicks? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SpoonR530 @ Jul 7, 2006 - 1:15 PM) [snapback]453075[/snapback]
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Who will Win??????????

I just moved to Tahoe CA (6000 ft elevation sucks 4 speed). The chick I’m roommates with is dating some dude with a 96 (i thnk) 1.6 civic. He just finished putting in his new header, CAI, and a Cat back. My 95 Celica ST has a CAI, , exhaust and a new clutch......

Any guesses?
-SpooNr

PS i will post the results regardless when it all goes down.

0-60 st maybe top end all out speed the civic will have you , my wife has a 93 civic 1.5l dx 2door i have a 94 st 1.8l both automatics from a stop i jumped out ahead of her 0-60 after that her car slowly came up and pasted me i could not pass the 107 mph mark the celica just did not have any more the civic just keep going ,she said it stopped aroung 124mph kindasad.gif now the mods on the civic at the time was a cai,header,2.5 exhaust with high flow cat and muffler a larger throttle bodie ,a sport compact igntion system and full interior, the celica at the time was a cia ,header ,3 in exhaust from the header back with high flow cat a fmu with 10.5mm spark plug wires a high out put ignition and all the interior was out but the two front seats, wink.gif this was all before my turbo was put in the celica now its a different story -HAA_HAAAA laugh.gif
I did a bit of research and I believe it is a >>>>>>95 EX with 1.6 liter, 125hp engine stock, to my 1.8 110 stock.... this isnt sounding too g00d but we'll see........maybe ill just get this car..... wink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/v/5zCGPjgxc9M
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This post has been edited by SpoonR530: Jul 8, 2006 - 3:27 AM
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QUOTE(SpoonR530 @ Jul 7, 2006 - 1:15 PM) [snapback]453075[/snapback]
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Who will Win??????????

I just moved to Tahoe CA (6000 ft elevation sucks 4 speed). The chick I’m roommates with is dating some dude with a 96 (i thnk) 1.6 civic. He just finished putting in his new header, CAI, and a Cat back. My 95 Celica ST has a CAI, , exhaust and a new clutch......

Any guesses?
-SpooNr

PS i will post the results regardless when it all goes down.


If it's manual & the guy can drive, I'm positive your ST will be eaten.
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QUOTE(Griff @ Jul 7, 2006 - 6:18 PM) [snapback]453182[/snapback]
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...wait...what were you doing in a geo...with 2 fat chicks? tongue.gif

giving the civic a chance laugh.gif

nah, this was a couple years ago and i used to be friends with them.

2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
my friend has a 99 civic EX auto AEM intake,2.5 cat back, wires, ,low profile tires. its doesn't move. i've never droven ST before. but my friend in the 99 civic has never one a race. im not saying every civic EX 99 is slow but HIS doesn't move.
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QUOTE(trdproven @ Jul 7, 2006 - 12:29 AM) [snapback]452899[/snapback]
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Umm, celica st should be able to beat a civic 4 door dx at least because of weight. But still, like this quote, "racing a civic is like racing in the special olympics. even though you win, you're still retarded." It should be more like "racing a civic is like racing in the special olympics. even though you win, you're still a loser." Its useless at the end.


*sigh* once and for all:

"Racing a civic is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win, your still retarded"

now that thats done, I dont see why people hate civics, there obviously not meant to be fast stock, niether is the celica. I you want a fast car, buy a fast car. If you want a faster car for a little bit of money, buy a civic.

To live, is to sufferTo survive, thats to find meaning, in the suffering....
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QUOTE(SpoonR530 @ Jul 7, 2006 - 8:09 PM) [snapback]453204[/snapback]
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I did a bit of research and I believe it is a >>>>>>95 EX with 1.6 liter, 125hp engine stock, to my 1.8 110 stock.... this isnt sounding too g00d but we'll see........maybe ill just get this car..... wink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/v/5zCGPjgxc9M
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I own a 94 Celica GT and a 95 Honda Civic Ex.
The Celica has DOHC 2.2 liter engine with 5 speed transmission
The Civic has SOCH 1.6 liter vtec engine with a 5 speed transmission.
My 94 Celica GT has better power from idle to 4000 RPM.
The 95 Honda EX has better power from 4000 to 7200 RPM.

I could drive either one and have an advantage if I could manage a few variables.

1. If I was in the 94 Celica GT. I would only race extremely short distances like only one or maybe two upshifts and shift before 4600 rpm. Anything above 4600 rpm in my GT the power curve falls off and any advantage I might have is probably lost.

2. If I was in the 95 Honda Civic Ex. I would only race where I could use rpm above 4000 through 7200 for at least two or three two upshifts. The longer the race the better I'll do. The more time I can be using high rpm the advantage is mine.

3. I don’t know about your particular Celica.

• If your particular Celica has more power than mine than you may hold the Civic off for a few short time until he gets to take advantage of the power available in the higher rpm range.

• If you have less power than my Celica I would say that you going watch him pull right past you. This is assuming equal driving skill, equal street tires, equal transmission type, and both engines being close to stock configuration.


I like the vid. This one’s kinda similar.


http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Toyo...FFEC3382D34.htm

I prefer my Celica.

Yellow94GT

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I like the vid. This one’s kinda similar.


http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Toyo...FFEC3382D34.htm

dude. he had a terrible start too, he sat there for almost a second after the green light lit up. I think he might've been able to pull off 8.0 or even 7.9 if he had a better launch

EDIT: wait, does he have to wait until that light way down the track lights up before he can go? (at about 37 seconds into the clip) sorry, I don't know much about drag racing.

This post has been edited by 6strngs: Jul 8, 2006 - 4:38 PM

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
you guys are starting to sound like a honda forum kindasad.gif the gt does not weigh 2400 lbs, thats the st territory, the gts are more like 2500-2600 lbs, 2001 and under civics are close to 2200 lbs for coupes/sedans and the hatchbacks are nearly 2000-2100 lbs, and a bunch of mis-pointed info, blaghh.....forget it.....

to the thread starter, you gotta be more specific mang, what year civic with what engine, auto or manual, etc etc,.....hondas have a good top end, sorry to say our celicas do not, the st can probably keep up with non-vtec civis stock for stock, for the vtec civics the st has no chance stock for stock auto vs auto manual vs manual and granted both drivers are equally matched, but seriously guys, lets not bench race here,.....just face the fact that the st are slow and the gt is not far behind according to my "quarter mile" thread and 5-spd gt celicas running 17s

unfortunately, civic owners dont seem to realize how bad of rep civics are, untill they've become a non-honda owner themselves or similiar,


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I like the vid. This one’s kinda similar.


http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Toyo...FFEC3382D34.htm

dude. he had a terrible start too, he sat there for almost a second after the green light lit up. I think he might've been able to pull off 8.0 or even 7.9 if he had a better launch

EDIT: wait, does he have to wait until that light way down the track lights up before he can go? (at about 37 seconds into the clip) sorry, I don't know much about drag racing.



You start when the green light (the lowest on the tree) shines for your lane. The first portion of the vid does not show us the Supra's start light. The second part (in the car) does. smile.gif


Yellow94GT
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to the thread starter, you gotta be more specific mang, what year civic with what engine, auto or manual, etc etc,....


He did.
SpoonR530 wrote:
"I did a bit of research and I believe it is a 95 EX with 1.6 liter, 125hp engine stock, to my 1.8 110 stock.... this isnt sounding too g00d but we'll see........maybe ill just get this car..... "

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Yellow 94GT
right,..........but is it manual or auto? sure it has 125hp, but minus 10+ for the auto, if its auto, and you are manual, you might have a chance
I own a 96 ST Auto, Intake, catback 2.25 piping with high flow muffler. Sparks and wires by ngk.

Beaten a Lancer from a highway roll. I think we where going 60 once we started. I was only around 1 car.

95 Civic EX Stock, beat from a line
97 Civic DX Intake and fart can no exaust. from a 30mph roll

Lost to a 97 Teg by 1/2 of a car length from a 40 mph roll.

Got ass kicked major by a scion sC
man, last night I lost to a VW passat! I was at a red light, and he was pulling up to the red light... so my excuse is that he started from a 3-4 mph roll and I was at a stop. but I was accellerating pretty quick, but he was still accellerating faster... by the time we were going around 45 mph his rear bumper was pretty much even with my front bumper. so he wasn't that much faster than me... but still, it hurt...

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
my st vs an sohcs 5speed or auto my st has one both times wy st vs any dohc civic its ont happening they just got to much power
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QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Jul 6, 2006 - 2:51 PM) [snapback]452715[/snapback]
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^ what is that! omg WHAT IS IT! RUN! ITS A HONDA! AHHHHH! lol

idk, the civic has always had close to 100hp...same as the st, so idk maybe its because the civic is newer and has less wear and tear so it has better pick up? idk but i think that a gt (auto or stick) would smash a civic

ps nice mkIII supra (note from background of civic pic)



THAT JUST MADE MY NIGHT! thank you! LOL laugh.gif

94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.
i lost to a mustang last night... but no surprise there.

Mini Supra... in need of mini boost.
i raced my friend today. i was in my 5 spd ST with a short ram and exhaust, and he was in a 99 eclipse gs i think. his has a header and exhaust. i won! i was happy, even tho his was auto.....
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i raced my friend today. i was in my 5 spd ST with a short ram and exhaust, and he was in a 99 eclipse gs i think. his has a header and exhaust. i won! i was happy, even tho his was auto.....

yay! just goes to show that celicas aren't all that slow!

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
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i raced my friend today. i was in my 5 spd ST with a short ram and exhaust, and he was in a 99 eclipse gs i think. his has a header and exhaust. i won! i was happy, even tho his was auto.....

yay! just goes to show that celicas aren't all that slow!


but it was auto. a manny gotta be at least a whole second faster. a manual GS isnt gonna beat a manual GT though.
YAY! street racing!
NOT.
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