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QUOTE(Glitch001 @ Nov 14, 2006 - 4:34 PM) [snapback]502355[/snapback]
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what size wastegate? are you using race gas? Im not trying to be rude but i stand by my early BS flag statement. Hoping for 600 will take a LOT of work. You mean 5's as in what? 1/8th? Im assuming your going to be using slicks.

and no need im not stressing, I was wondering if you could elaborate on more details. turbo size and trim? Boost levels? size of your intercooler? intake manifold? new throttle body? Shimless buckets? What stage clutch are you getting "spec" is kinda overall. Ill also assume you ment 264 duration camshafts not 265. Also what headgasket, the TTE is my personal fav, with a 60/40 sucess rate for the HKS. Also I didnt see ANY fuel stuff. Wondering your rail/injector size/ pump/ fpr?

for 600, id go 3'' piping. 2.5'' is only good for 300 or so.
you also have 2 downpipes listed. Im assuming a 3'' straight pipe, but to hit those levels you may need 4''.

Not to be nitpicky, but this seems more like a pipe dream than actual numbers. And if/when you can post the dyno and answer these questions Ill apologzie for jumping to conclusions. Good luck.



all i need is a week or 2 to get it tuned and get everything to wasy i want then off to the dyno andthe fuel rail was custom made it came with the sheet matel intake i have 9 or 1000cc and 2 fuel pumps 1 in tank and 1 inline aeromotive. i will answer all ur ather ? later
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QUOTE(94celicadude @ Nov 14, 2006 - 6:13 PM) [snapback]502344[/snapback]
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QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Nov 14, 2006 - 10:41 PM) [snapback]502326[/snapback]
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need more details before i raise the bs flag.


+1


+2
Look into Bosch fuel pumps and perhaps wiggens clamps if you need them for blowing off intercooler piping.
Looking forward to your others answers.
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QUOTE(illestcv-celica @ Nov 14, 2006 - 3:46 PM) [snapback]502305[/snapback]
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yes for the most part its going to be a dyno queen. but for racing this going to down to around 5 something

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QUOTE(Glitch001 @ Nov 14, 2006 - 6:34 PM) [snapback]502355[/snapback]
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what size wastegate? are you using race gas? Im not trying to be rude but i stand by my early BS flag statement. Hoping for 600 will take a LOT of work. You mean 5's as in what? 1/8th? Im assuming your going to be using slicks.

and no need im not stressing, I was wondering if you could elaborate on more details. turbo size and trim? Boost levels? size of your intercooler? intake manifold? new throttle body? Shimless buckets? What stage clutch are you getting "spec" is kinda overall. Ill also assume you ment 264 duration camshafts not 265. Also what headgasket, the TTE is my personal fav, with a 60/40 sucess rate for the HKS. Also I didnt see ANY fuel stuff. Wondering your rail/injector size/ pump/ fpr?

for 600, id go 3'' piping. 2.5'' is only good for 300 or so.
you also have 2 downpipes listed. Im assuming a 3'' straight pipe, but to hit those levels you may need 4''.

Not to be nitpicky, but this seems more like a pipe dream than actual numbers. And if/when you can post the dyno and answer these questions Ill apologzie for jumping to conclusions. Good luck.


It's obvious he had this all done at a shop and they told him a horsepower number. Good luck with 600hp and if EVEN IF you some how magically have 600hp.. good luck .. the first time you drag/dyno it you will break ****.. if that is a "spec" clutch.. it's trash.. you ****ed up there.. go take a visit to mr2oc if you want to talk to real men with real expirence in high horsepower 3sgte's and they'll laugh at you for choosing a spec clutch and also for putting a "600hp" 3sgte into a celica..

I'll have to go with +1 on the BS flag too.

87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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QUOTE(illestcv-celica @ Nov 13, 2006 - 7:58 PM) [snapback]502060[/snapback]
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Swapped 93 JDM 3sgte
electromotive tec 2
ARP headstuds and mains
JE pistons .020 over amd coated sides amd top
eagle rods
5sfe cran
khks cams 265 hks cam gears
ferrea valves 1mm over
ferrea titanium retainers
head flow was 240 cfm
head coated too
precision turbo and intercooler
2.5" mandrel bent intercooler pipe.
3" downpipe.
Gato performance exhaust manafold, sheet metal intake and piping
Spec clutch
Cometic head gasket
3" down pipe
and more to name later


Eagle rods? ... Could've done better

Stainless Steel valves... should've went with Stellite valves...



87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
Hmmm, im not going to add to the flagging, but 600hp, sounds like a funny number to just start throwing around without any proof....kinda sound like that guy on ebay, with the 20k???, 5sfe powered celica that is suppose to be uber god amongst 5sfe powered celicas....hmmm, not raisein the b/s flag just adding an opinion....btw, anyone got a reply from that guy selling that overpriced (uber-god)celica on ebay??

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WOW...600whp is alot... I have had a quick read and i just dont think its gonna make that number.

Id like to know what: Turbo is gonna be used, engine managment, fuel pump and line size, the list could go on.....

BS flag for me.....

My 5sgte will make 600-700whp but not with the setup i have on it now.
My car dont even run at the moment so i cant talk.....

Please post us dyno charts and proove us all wrong for god sake and a few more PICS would be nice....

312whp with more to come....
damn guys. give the man alil space lol. i mean it's unbelievable but since he haven't got his car back yet.. i don't think he can update us on anything.. maybe we should wait till his car is done and ask for dyno sheets and more details

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QUOTE(shin @ Nov 18, 2006 - 5:23 PM) [snapback]503536[/snapback]
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damn guys. give the man alil space lol. i mean it's unbelievable but since he haven't got his car back yet.. i don't think he can update us on anything.. maybe we should wait till his car is done and ask for dyno sheets and more details


+1

...but can we then call the BS flag if we dont see the acclaimed numbers?! lol...j/p

This post has been edited by 94celicadude: Nov 18, 2006 - 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Punisher @ Nov 18, 2006 - 1:12 AM) [snapback]503448[/snapback]
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It's obvious he had this all done at a shop and they told him a horsepower number. Good luck with 600hp and if EVEN IF you some how magically have 600hp.. good luck .. the first time you drag/dyno it you will break ****.. if that is a "spec" clutch.. it's trash.. you ****ed up there.. go take a visit to mr2oc if you want to talk to real men with real expirence in high horsepower 3sgte's and they'll laugh at you for choosing a spec clutch and also for putting a "600hp" 3sgte into a celica..

I'll have to go with +1 on the BS flag too.



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QUOTE(Punisher @ Nov 18, 2006 - 1:22 AM) [snapback]503450[/snapback]
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Eagle rods? ... Could've done better

Stainless Steel valves... should've went with Stellite valves...



uh, they wont laugh at you for buying a spec clutch... alot of people like them, just not the stage 2.
any rwd car laughs at any fwd car anyways, thats just how it works.
id do more research before bashing this guys setup, even if it doesn't put down 600hp its still gunna put down more than a stock 3sgte. Thats really condescending when u say oh you shoulda did this shoulda did that.
shoulda hooked up his wastegate right and had his wideband in the right location tongue.gif
lets just wait for the dyno slip.


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Spec has a new batch of clutches, frankly all clutches are trash. I havent found a SINGLE one I liked, except my friends ORC twin plate but i wont spend 800 on a clutch...yet.
There seems to be a lot of problems with spec, but they havent hurt me at 400+ on stage 3.

comparitivly speaking, his car wil rock on the high end, where traction isnt an issue, he will make a lot more than stock but who knows for how long in any car.

This post has been edited by Glitch001: Nov 18, 2006 - 3:02 PM
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QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Nov 18, 2006 - 2:50 PM) [snapback]503572[/snapback]
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Nov 18, 2006 - 1:12 AM) [snapback]503448[/snapback]
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It's obvious he had this all done at a shop and they told him a horsepower number. Good luck with 600hp and if EVEN IF you some how magically have 600hp.. good luck .. the first time you drag/dyno it you will break ****.. if that is a "spec" clutch.. it's trash.. you ****ed up there.. go take a visit to mr2oc if you want to talk to real men with real expirence in high horsepower 3sgte's and they'll laugh at you for choosing a spec clutch and also for putting a "600hp" 3sgte into a celica..

I'll have to go with +1 on the BS flag too.



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QUOTE(Punisher @ Nov 18, 2006 - 1:22 AM) [snapback]503450[/snapback]
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Eagle rods? ... Could've done better

Stainless Steel valves... should've went with Stellite valves...



uh, they wont laugh at you for buying a spec clutch... alot of people like them, just not the stage 2.
any rwd car laughs at any fwd car anyways, thats just how it works.
id do more research before bashing this guys setup, even if it doesn't put down 600hp its still gunna put down more than a stock 3sgte. Thats really condescending when u say oh you shoulda did this shoulda did that.
shoulda hooked up his wastegate right and had his wideband in the right location tongue.gif
lets just wait for the dyno slip.


Maybe rwd laughs at fwd because rwd is superior for high horsepower?

Do more research? I've done my far share considering I built my entire setup...

Oh and my wideband location may not be the best but it doesn't lie and as for the wastegate.. oops.. I could've pussied out and used an internal.. or even kept the ct26...

But personally I would've went with different (better) parts if I was him.. but then again I would've had more cash to spend because I wouldn't of wasted thousands of dollars on someone else doing the labor.

87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
Define "better" you only said 1 part if I recall, he hasnt really specified ANY of his parts how do you know yours are better.
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QUOTE(Glitch001 @ Nov 18, 2006 - 9:51 PM) [snapback]503652[/snapback]
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Define "better" you only said 1 part if I recall, he hasnt really specified ANY of his parts how do you know yours are better.


Who said mine are better? I said if I was HIM I would've chosed better parts... but he probably spent a **** ton on having someone else do the work that he ate half his budget up right there. We won't see a 600hp dyno slip out of that motor and if we do, it'll be the last dyno run that engine pulls.

I wouldn't recommend doing the dyno pull after your first oil change either.. to hit 600hp you'll have to be spitting down some impressive boost numbers and I wouldn't put that much trust on new piston rings that early.

87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
illestcv-celica, good luck with your car man. it looks like youve got some money into it. i really doubt you will hit 600hp (or would even want something like that in a fwd car). just hold off untill you have pics, vids and dynosheets to show some proof what making such high power claims. this is the internet after all, and anyone could post crazy claims just to have braging rights.

ps. in three weeks, my car will be 601hp , awd, and have a built in rocket that takes me to the moon and back. biggrin.gif

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sounds iffy... but I can't wait to see what you come up with. hell, even if you only get 400 hp, that's still pretty ****in impressive!

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You guys just wait till he posts the 600hp dyno slip. Then he'll say, "In yo face" and everyone will be burned! Just you wait!
I never said your parts were better i Just asked why do you think what you listed was better. Besides the point, when did he post last anyway.
just to let every1 know i did most of the work on the car and the motor myself. I work part time at a machine shop in kissammee call p.c.c. auto. so did not pay thousands of dollars on is and i got whole sale on some of my part. now im havin a problem with some of the stock wiring. im tryin to keep the a/c so i have to trace all the the wires to the controls. this way i can cut the rest of the wires out to make it look better. so im try to work on that right now. ill get back to every1 later
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QUOTE(illestcv-celica @ Nov 19, 2006 - 9:36 AM) [snapback]503717[/snapback]
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just to let every1 know i did most of the work on the car and the motor myself. I work part time at a machine shop in kissammee call p.c.c. auto. so did not pay thousands of dollars on is and i got whole sale on some of my part. now im havin a problem with some of the stock wiring. im tryin to keep the a/c so i have to trace all the the wires to the controls. this way i can cut the rest of the wires out to make it look better. so im try to work on that right now. ill get back to every1 later


word, well keep us updated...

but honestly some of you sound retarded....his setup, his design, his liking....who cares if you could have used better parts....there is always someone doing something bigger and better so your comments are pointless and make u sound retarded...especially when your setup is inferior...

let this rest until photos and a dyno show up rolleyes.gif
good luck to you i saved alot money putting my motor together my slef.. so you go ahead and do it the way you want to and have fun with it. Thats all thats matters its about what you want.....
His motor, fuel, and tranny seem up to the task. I bet this thing should do well over 500hp if the turbo is good for it so don't knock him just yet.
I wish you all the best at the dyno. I'm interested to see what it does. Keep us posted


Lagos, I'll take the trip with you.

Where did our resident "600hp 3sgte dreamer" go?

87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Nov 27, 2006 - 9:09 PM) [snapback]505758[/snapback]
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Where did our resident "600hp 3sgte dreamer" go?



keep that to yourself. seriously

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