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a) how is in correct and a bad idea when a 7afe is already running 11.06:1 CR using a greddy emanage
b) if you're having a motor tuned common sense says take it someone whos done it before
c) how do you know its impossible? i'm pretty sure you've never tried...
d) and nowhere have i claimed it would work 100% or made guarentees.
i've provided general information from personal research i and other people have done about this process. and now he as a generic starting point which he will be able to further on his own.

so unless you pull up some proof backing up your claims...all you've writen here is just that blank unsupported claims and not knowing ****

This post has been edited by playr158: Feb 13, 2007 - 9:31 PM

hey player who is running the 11:1 setup could you give me his name so i can talk with him thanks

Um.. So you're saying that if you swapped a 5th gen GTS that would be legal because it's the same model car? Last time I checked a 5th gen alltrac comes up as TOYOTA CELICA ALLTRAC.. Not GT.. not GTS.. It's in the same class as the CELICA but it is NOT the SAME MODEL.

besides.. a 3S is a bolt in swap

Anyway.. i didn't wake up on the wrong side of the bed.. I just crawled out of the bed of expirence. And yes.. I've owned a 7afe.. infact I swapped one into my 89 corolla sr5 coupe.. did all the wiring myself.. that car comes factory carb'd.. so it was a job in itself.. I also did a lot of custom fab on a 4af.. including quad carbs.. stick that one under your night cap.. and I've built a 3sgte from ground up .. did the wiring myself.. and I'm more than maxing out the stock fuel system on that motor with only 14psi.. daily driven at that.. I've torn transmissions apart too. Some of the people on this board are just online mechanics... so you can decide if you want to listen to people with real expirence or those who just read about things.

Engineers have a good saying that goes like this..

Built on paper is different than built in real world. Think about that one.

a legal motor swap would be a motor from that model (celica) 94-99 any motor offered in it for the usdm release ,you can use a motor from a differant car as long as the motor is the same that was offered, corolla 93-97 (1.8l ) mr2 (2.2l ) now i think the 3sgte was offered in the mr2 from 89-94 but that is a little gray as the motor was not in the celica motor line up but it would pass any smog or title test, this is what i was told by my cousin , a state trooper. glad to see you have the expirence of working on a few differant motors and i dont wear a night cap.............ha ha !! i jk i jk , thanks for your input but i dont think i will be doing a swap just because you said to i all ready have alot done to this motor to just let it go , now i also know that the 3s is a strong motor ,but dont foget about nik and his 7agte setup .i know he has alot of money and time into it but that is what he wanted and if he just did a swap we would not have the info we have know.

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on an st? wouldnt he have to get a gt trans or a new trans anyway along with new mounts? besides i totally agree with just swapping the engine. however to each his own, im not gonna yell at someone for having a black car instead of a red one, but these arguments or discussions that people have with proving each other wrong or correct i encourage as long as they stay civil, god knows how much i have learned from all this, get to see each & every view even when someone is just being a wise guy playin devils advocate to prove someone wrong i love it!!!!

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Trans and mounts.. IIRC they all bolt in

Ya, I don't really care what he does either.. more power to him. Just want people to be sure they know what they are getting into.. Also the cost/time vs. outcome scenario.

mounts don't just bolt in...you have to drill into your frame inorder to mount the left (P-side) motor mount
plus you need a nice other amount of things, axels, tranny, shift cables and the sort

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I'm sure with an online mechanic helping him it won't be an issue, right?

honestly the 3s isn't the holy **** of motors though it be a good one
you are far missing the point of what he is doing.....stop throwing the 3s into bull****....its rather annoying when someone tries a 7afte project and people keep bitching about should just 3s it....

good luck TRD let me know if u need help
(and wow online mechanic really? since i have customers in over 3 states and 2 countries?)

This post has been edited by playr158: Feb 19, 2007 - 11:25 AM

LOL. He wants more form his 7A - it's his motor let him do it.
BTW - Anyone know what the fastest documented 1/4mile is on 7A-FTE/GTE?

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i dont know the fastes times but nik said with his 7afte set up he would get a 14.7 or so i know at 7psi i ran a 15.002 on my 7afte ............ thanks player158 i will keep you posted and if i need anything i will give you a holler ( i might need that extra motor you got only time will tell )

Trd ; the most important thing you must specify with the CR on 7a is the head you want to use (7afe or 4age). Two completely different CR with the 4agze piston.

With 1st gen 4agze toy piston (8.0;1) + 4age head +7afe block+1mm gasket= approx. 8.5;1 to 8.7;1.

Just to clarify

Claude

This post has been edited by frotou: Feb 19, 2007 - 6:50 PM

I don't care what he does it's up to him.. it isn't my time or money. I just don't think the 7afe will put down 250whp daily driven (reliable) with out a lot of internal upgrades.

Best of luck .. I hope it does work out good for you. Prove to those who disbelieve that it can be done.

This post has been edited by Punisher: Feb 19, 2007 - 9:53 PM

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what what did you do with that SOB we used to know?!
did you go froofroo on us getting all soft and ****?

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i was thinking of trying the 4agze pistons (8:0:1) + 7afe head gasket with a 1mm ,or a 2mm head gasket , if the 1 mm head gasket with the head and piston set up raises the compression some that could be ok as long as it does not go way high 10:0:1 would be ok as i have seen some toyotas run that ratio and boost just not alot of boost , i have pushed my 7afte to 17psi abd the motor held up well but the tuning would not let me run that all the time so , the idea is to beef up the pistons a little get the compression around 10:x:1 and run a little less boost like around 10psi -12psi ,just to see what it will do i think i will try this setup on a differant 7a as mine is a very strong motor and if this does not work i can go back to my motor i have now i know some one with a motor that would let me have it for a real good deal so we will just try and see what happens. by the way what do you think the CR would be with the 7afe head and 4a pistons with a 1mm headgasket , or a 2mm headgasket just would like to know

Hum... I think you'll get too high CR with 4a piston and 7afe head to turbocharge it ...even with the 2 mm headgasket.

Claude

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Someone on a previous page offered to donate you a motor - so do it. This would benefit many ST owners to know one way or another.

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7afe head + 4agze pistons= 11.06cr
in NA form if you can get it to the low 10s should be fine

do you think with a 2mm head gasket it would get it lower, around 10:1 or so

you'd have to use an engine calculator

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