LOL what? You do realize that most all girls that guys consider "friends" are simply there because the girl doesn't want anything more.

So what you said is probably true. That he flirts with her and he'd do her. Doesn't mean he is. So theres really no lie there.

To add: Guys know this. Thats why guys are very skeptical of male friends.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 13, 2007 - 2:53 PM

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And you are basing this one what? Your own experience? I don't lie to my boyfriend about anything. Honesty is key in relationships IMO.

a lie is a lie, period. You are either telling the truth or you aren't. It really is that simple... there is no difference in a lie based on who told it. That's asinine to even think that.

edit: i'm sorry this topic got so out of hand Nat.

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Jul 13, 2007 - 4:49 PM

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True! It's not that most guys don't trust thier gf when they are around other guys. It that guys know what others guys are thinking, so we just don't trust the guys our gfs are hanging out with.

Now, to get on topic..
-girls that complain about something and arn't willing to do anything about it.
-girls that drink alot or do drugs
-girls that can't appreciate my interest in cars
-materialistic girls
-already been mentioned, but girls that can't take a joke

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lol its not out of hand yet Tina. :-P

I dont lie to my boyfriend either. He gets the full truth - i dont hold anything back. Thats what I expect. Dont dance around little things just give me the 110 percent truth of everything.

At the sake of avoiding a topic closure I'll just say that I made that all up for this topic only.

After a few nights ago, I have to add a few..

- Boys that break-up with me via MySpace.
- Bad hair, omg.
- No job/no money/no car.
- Snoring.

I've become an outspoken, major bitch, and I haven't found a guy yet who can handle me.

This post has been edited by Jen: Jul 13, 2007 - 11:25 PM

Girls who cant drive. (not saying women/girls cant drive. Some are just poor drivers..just like some men/boys)

like, they follow WAY to close, or are HARDLY doing the speed limit. or are just so "whocares" that u seriously are playing russian roullet everytime u get into a car with them.

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Well.....I think we can all solve this mystery

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Yep!!!! I actually had a girl break up with me because I didn't trust her with them (because of their intentions).
The day after she dumped me, the other dude tried to move in on her. She told him off, and came back to me but I told her to go to hell. Stupid girls and telling guys they don't know the intentions of guys.

turn offs ?

girls that aren't crazy

giggity giggity

chicks with really bad accents, if i cant understand what your saying or tolerate how you're saying it i just want to punch you. i just cant understand people who have lived here all their life and cannot speak proper english. it just makes them seem dumb, even though that may not be the case.

smoking or drug abuse of any kind

no concept of time aka being late

chicks that have the silent "O"

chicks with kids....

I have not worked out order of importance but here is goes:
-gals who exagerate about everything and all the time
-gals who have short hair
-gals who do not shave their ... I once went down on a chick and came right back up leaping backwards. she had a "2 inch" perfectly black situation growing.. I had nighmares for weeks.
-gals who dont let you have your personal time. (I like you but i dont want to spend 100 percent of my time with you).. (dont call me at work unless its emergency.. dont talk to me about what your best friend jen heard karen talking about bob's relationship with tina)
-gals who reach in your wallet like its a botomless barrel.
-gals who say "he is my boyfriend" in the squeeky italian sinus/stuffy nose voice
-gals who dont understand your interests in certain things.
-gals who say I duno.. what do you wanna do
=gals who drink and smoke cause they think its cool
-gals who call their mother every day 5 times per hour talking about mine and her;s relationship.
-gals who qualify in one of the following categoris:
-say ohh my gosh and like like like like like
-say im gonna be sick and ewww and Ill never do this its gross
-say that they get queezy on anything from rides to water sports
-gals who CHECK if you are cheating like if they have obsessive compulsive disorder.

-reasons why I had to break up with gals over the years
-bush down unda
-excessive tattoos and piercings
-checking if i cheat
-spending my money like if I was bill gates
-talk crap about my likings to computers/video games/my hobbies
-start bringing you down by being in a relationship just because.
-say "im not ready yet" or "lets wait" 6 months into relationship

best thing I did in last 9 years was become a bachelor again. viva la freedom

things that I do nowadays: (and it might sound egoistic but neccessary)
-split if no sex in under 2 weeks 1 month max
-not spend 20 bucks per day to impress her
-lay out all my cards up front saying who I am and what I do and what my interest and time layout is.
-look at who she is and what she is all about from a perspective of a critic and not horny 24 year old which I am.
-push for testing before she opens her mouth about it
-have girl friends who do some backstage investigating on her previous relationship.
-take everything she says... remember and respont to questions and divide everything she says by a half and then some.

sadly I turned from respect women for who they truly are and what they represent into .. alright lets get to business and get things out of the way before we proceed. I guess that only comes from past bitter relationships.

This post has been edited by yarik83: Jul 15, 2007 - 4:49 AM

>OMFG!!!

At least the garden dwarves didn´t attack you for tresspassing!

DAMN!!!

I´m laughing my ass off!!!



This post has been edited by IGloo: Jul 16, 2007 - 12:21 AM

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and you sound like a total jackass.

basically you should just go find a prostitute because what you are looking for is not a girlfriend and i would also advise maturing before you even think of having a relationship.

He's a jackass because he's picky and has opinions on things? Makes no sense to me.

I guess the requirements of being a girlfriend involve all of which he has itemized? Doubtful.

I agree with most all of what he said. You can still respect women and say get the BS out of the way.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 16, 2007 - 11:00 AM

no i think he's a jackass because of his last statement

sadly I turned from respect women for who they truly are and what they represent into .. alright lets get to business and get things out of the way before we proceed. I guess that only comes from past bitter relationships.

maybe i'm reading this wrong?

the rest of his itemized list are his own preferences i didn't say anything about that.

other than push for testing... wtf is that if you are dating skanky girls who have stds you should rethink what you're really looking for in a relationship.

to me it sounds like all he wants is sex with no strings attached which is why i said a prostitute is a better way to go for him.

i also don't think you should let past relationship have anything to do with a new/current one.

that's where i think a lot of people go wrong. Just because your last girlfriend or boyfriend was a lying cheating son of a bitch doesn't mean every other person you date thereafter will be of the same character.

I really don't think you can categorize everyone into one group. Girls are this and Guys are that. No two people are exactly the same.
Perhaps it's the type of guy/girl or your standards that attribute to poor relationships.


this is all my own opinion. i just think it's a little rude that's all.

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Jul 16, 2007 - 11:47 AM

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It's impossible not to let past relationships shape your current or future ones. The reason most early ones fail and later ones succeed is the lessons learned. So forgetting everything you've learned from the past and being naive all over again is ignorant. Should you assume this person is like the last? No, but the lesson learned is that everyones capable of that. Everyones human, and the Id is often stronger than the Ego.

Rude is burping at the dinner table, or cutting someone off in the middle of conversation or being cursing in public, not holding the door open for someone. Here in a forum, stating your opinions in a form that asks for them, isn't rude. If your being offended then your taking it to personally. He's not talking about you, he's talking about all the girls he has known.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 16, 2007 - 12:35 PM

Erik- i didn't ask you to define the word rude to me. I am aware of what it means and in MY OPINION what he said is rude. Rude does not have to be an ACTION.

I understand learning from past relationship I never said we should forget they happened and get hurt again.

What I was saying relates to the statement i made bold. He said he acts this way or feels this way as a result of bitter past relationships. I PERSONALLY think that people should not let past relationship affect current ones so much that they change how you perceive the opposite sex. Sorry if i didn't make that clear in my last post.

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Jul 16, 2007 - 12:48 PM

Everything is an action. The act of typing something on the internet for the express purpose if inadvertently insulting strangers.

If 100 men hurt you and your dating 101 don't you think in the back of your mind your thinking, this dude's gonna hurt me? It's inevitable.

To add to turn offs: Unappealing car. If a girl is driving a Chevy Corsica, sorry I g2g.
Oh and bratty girls. I hate girls that expect you to pay for everything and think they're a gift from the gods. Get over yourself.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 16, 2007 - 2:19 PM

you are impossible to even talk to because you have to twist everything i say to get the last word in.

You know exactly what I was saying previously and I don't think i can make my opinion any more clear then i already have.

If 100 men hurt me and I'm on to 101 then i obviously did not learn my lesson from my past 100 relationships so you basically negated what you said previously.

Maybe I don't understand you logic because of my own experiences. I have been cheated on. I was used and treated very unfairly in a past relationship. I learned from it. I did not bring my "baggage" and feeling toward my ex to my current relationship.
my ex was a cheating lying bastard. my boyfriend now isn't and i trust him. I did not enter my relationship now saying oh man remember the last guy this guy must cheat and lie to i better be careful.

I personally don't think that's any way to live ones life.

you are so antagonistic



This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Jul 16, 2007 - 2:20 PM

turn offs:

girls who have a male best friend.
girls that just turned 21 and are really into the bar scene.
girls who take pictures of themselves through the day (everyday) and later post it on myspace.

Heres my turnoffs

1. guys friends with their exs. EX IS AN EX - move on.
2. guys who arent caring and dont make note that like i have a doc appt and then later ask how it went.
3. guys who think getting really really trashed is an ok thing to do - not attractive.
4. guys who wear emo jeans - uhh no thanks
5. guys who lie to me at all. Dont lie to me about stupid crap like "oh yeah i told my mom u said hi" and hten later I find out you didnt. Its just dumb and rediculous.
6. Guys who dont think holidays are a big deal - fine if u dont think so but hello im a girl and i do!

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This was an example. It's easier to understand concepts when they are exaggerated, as oppose to say 2 or 3 guys. Same thing applies, its just easier to see if its a greater number. It wasn't meant to be taken literally.

Its a forum, theres no last word. I am simply replying. Antagonistic, of course. I do try my hardest. I'm a challenge. I always challenge people in what they say because they should always know how to back it up; even if I don't disagree with them. This isn't anything new, and its not something bad, just a little annoying.


Girls who don't like cars in general
Girls who don't stand up for themselves.
Girls who are stupid. (IE don't know anything interesting about anything.)

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 16, 2007 - 2:38 PM

turn off:

- Stupid Girl

simple and easy!

ok ok let me explain myself.

When a girl is getting into a relationship she assumes the fact that whoever she is committing to is priviledged with her presence. In many cases that is true.. in many cases it is not. In either case its built into female genes to do the following: be family oriented. You do not care about sex in ways men do, you do not care for things you find irrational from your perspective, you also do not look at a relationship from a guy perspective.

When a guy commits to a relationship he has one thing on his mind. Unless he is suffering from an illness, unless he is deformed, unless he is mentally retarded VERY first thing he expects is SEX. Yes that pesky little thing that satisfies his desire. He could be skinny, fat, greedy, generous, rich, poor and regardless of the race every self respecting male wants sex. When we get into a relationship thats a thing that we expect. We expect it now and preferably every day at 11 in the morning, 9 at night and then some in between on a lunch break. We do not want to marry a chick because one day we wake up and go ooooo oooo I want to marry her. We marry a chick because if we dont she will get all pissy and make a scene and everyone on her mothers side will hate you. And when we do propose first thing you do is stick your hand out to all your lady friends and advertise how much money your man spent on that ring. You shine ear to ear, have a honey moon then after 4.5 years into marriage it hits you that you married a guy just to be in a relationship and 4.5 years into a relationship your guy starts checking out other girls involuntarily.

So when I am saying that I have expectations I expect that If I provide my lady with a pretty good financial backup, pay her bills, help out her parents, buy a house, buy cars, pay for kids education and yada yada yada I would love to come home and pew pew the living brains out of my wife. Yes women are people too but in many cases (not all) your wife is not a doctor or a lawyer or a financial investor or a celebrity.. instead there are kids, childbirth, pregnancy, raising kids, kindergarden, after school, families over, trips to places among other things that generally imply that majority of income in a relationship comes from the guy's side.

Have I been married? No. Do I plan to have kids and get married? yes.

Have I had girlfriends? Yes on and off.. every kind from a book smart to a bisexual and it was always one of the following:
-perfect girl, smart beautiful, little sex
-so so girl, silly and pissing you off... lots of sex
-down the middle chickie chickie.... you are not in a relationship with her.. you are in a relationship with her mother and everyone else she talks to because her decisions are not of her own.

So please tell me how can I not be bitter when time after time after time and not just me but many people I know.. a relationship is like running on the tippy toes on a long razor blade. To the left is a lake with poo to the right is a lake with lava.. and blade hurts your feet along the way.. so no matter where you go from there its always grrr grrrrr grrrrr

Cliffs?

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kinda harsh coming from someone who once said they didn't want to be the "person who ditches their friends when they get in a relationship"

I started to write a whole response to this, but then i realized where I am and that the majority of the members on this forum will agree with you because IMO your maturity level isn't at a point where you can handle a REAL relationship.

I will say though that you shouldnt say things like all women are the same. We aren't beleive me i am NOTHING like whatever it is you are trying to describe.

Good luck finding some worthless woman who will lie on her back for you. You're never going to be satisfied because youre priorities are ****ed up.



Erik- I know. You are a royal PITA.

I think perhaps I'll stay off the boards for a while.

Who are u addressing?

a-a-a-and one more shot at steering us back to topic:

my compendium of gargantuan turn-offs:

-smoking
-girls that wear waaaaaayyyy too much makeup
-girls that bite their nails, chew or twirl their hair, or chomp their gum
-girls that can't see and appreciate an honest effort even if it doesn't turn out right
-girls that compare you to previous boyfriends
-the compulsive need to buy useless s**t just because it's on sale
-telling me how to wear my hair, etc
-the ever-mysterious "going out dancing" thing that can under no circumstances include me
-girls that want to pick their own engagement ring
-girls that talk about wanting kids waaaaayy before it's even remotely appropriate
-girls that have a creepy "stricly platonic" male friend who never seems to go away
-girls that only want you around to keep away their psycho exes
-the seeming lack of emotional independence that manifests itself as the inability to make decisions alone, irresponsibility with money, and excessive drama
-girls that wake you up at 2 in the morning to say they want to go out to breakfast after sex
-confrontational tendencies
-girls who call themselves b**ches
-girls that don't know how to dress or behave their age/body type
-girls that can't ride a bike, sleep in a tent, drink coffee or beer, or enjoy a good sunset
-lactose intolerance and/or other ridiculous food allergies
-lack of culture
-general rudeness

yes, i spent a LONG time on that. there are probably more, too.

whew.