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you really believe that? an R?

also, i fail to understand why everyone believes the 3sgte swapped celica is the end all of fwd cars. its good for 14's at best, jeff's hit the 13's but his mod list is pretty expensive, including good tires. I don't think the swap is in his budget. If he's looking for a car to mod cheaply, by all means a Honda is probably the more practical choice.

This post has been edited by Akimbo: Jul 15, 2007 - 2:36 AM

personally i agree with playr. i haven't ever seen a jdm type r and i don't think i would own a teg without doing the front end conversion. but i would still rather have a 6gc over the teg. i just see way too many suped up hondas. that is one of the things that i love about our cars. its diff. i get head turns all the time in mine and i don't have any exterior mods done to it. it just looks amazing. you wouldn't ever really get that from any honda unless it is like a s2k or nsx.
ya it is slow and also even with the swap it isn't "lightning Fast" but who cares? if you want a really quick car then go drop a buttload of money for one. i don't care if my car can be smoked by a teg. mine looks better and much more original.
to me all tegs and civics all look alike. i like to stand out.

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That might be true for you but st owners dont have sideskirts and are way high off the ground so it looks hella weird, you also have rims, i have hubcaps...

Anyway i am keeping my 6gc and my friend is buying an integra ls, hes got a $2,100 GREDDY turbo kit w/out an intercooler allready sitting in his living room. I wish i was in his shoes but i will get to drive it around sometimes and possibly take it off his hands one day...

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Answer: buy some OEM side skirts and install them and buy a nice set of wheels. You'll probably want new springs and shocks as well.

Its not that bad having a 6gc. You make it seem like you walked into something that you wish you hadn't. Embrace what this community has to offer and take advantage of good deals in the B/S forum and you'll be set.

I guess it all comes down to where your priorities are. If you want a fast car first, and make it look nice later then save up for an engine swap. It doesn't matter if you have an auto (aside from having to install a clutch pedal) because if you were to buy a 3S, 4A 20V, etc. you would be getting (hopefully) a manual transmission with it.

Likewise, if you want to have a nice looking car before fast then start with the basics. Start off with some wheels and tires. Then invest in some springs and shocks. Just hit things up one by one.

Don't look at the whole picture right now. Just pick a spot to start and take it step by step.

idk if this is out of ur price range or not but if i was to get another car id buy a 2004 dodge neon SRT-4 my buddie has one with a 400 hp it will eat most STI's and turboed civics and what not

My celi just gets hated on alot, i won slowest and worst car at school, and its not cause people hate me, its just cause celicas have a terrible rep around here for being bug eyed raised versions of a civc, except the civic can beat it.

IMO they are wrong because civics have less displacement and are boxy but i cant change the minds of 3/4 of my school...

I still love my car but until i get rims and a lip kit im really discouraged with it.

i say we get some 3g's up where you are and show them whats boss

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i think it depends on the driver...i get head turns all the time with my Integra

anyway, sounds like you kept your celi. but if you ever come to the Honda world (Coomer did haha) get a Teggy over the Civic for sure.
And never get a dodge SRT-4...they may be fast, but Yuck!

This post has been edited by IntegraSEChick: Jul 17, 2007 - 3:12 PM

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lol, your gonna need more than an "engine swap" (no one will belive you, unless they research which high schoolers dont do) to impress ppl at my school, your gonna need a kit and rims lol.

I hate my school....

Buy a GT4 Front end conversion. you will impress the people in school.

"aww the hood is soo cool"
"Is that a real GT4?"
"No, just a look alike, but the vents really do cool my engine bay"

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Why are you getting a car to impress your school? Your 17 right? Which means your only there for another year about. I think if you like your Celica that is all that matters, and you shouldn't change what you drive just to make other people happy.

so you may have an auto and sure it may be slow. but does everyone else at your school have an interior that looks like that? hell i'd love to have that in my car. I'm only 18 by the way. but trust me. down the road you're gonna appreciate the reliability and dependability of the celi. I'm keeping my ST until it runs into the ground. then i'm gonna swap it and do it all over again. lol.

Dude take it from me..Everybody at my school loved the look of my car.Dont worry about the outside of your car.Especially in high school my car got beat to hell. I even parked across the street some times to keep the kids in cars away from me. Save your cash. and tell your freinds to suck it. My best freind in school had a 550 horsepower Grand National complete domestic kid ad when i told him i was thinking about selling it. He said I would never find a nicer looking car body style wise And he would start calling me a ricer. All hondas got on us are that they can Start there on fads because there are so many of them. Arounds here rattle can spray jobs and colored wheels are the ****...I think it just looks like there driving around some car i drew and colored in the 2nd grade. Dont fall into the honda craze.All the cleanlooking tegs and civics look the same just differnt paint and wheels(somtimes) To me JDM is the new rice.

This post has been edited by Shocker: Jul 17, 2007 - 11:30 PM

I just want to stand out in a positive way, you know? im sick of neg attention.

integras.... SUCK

A Honda isn't really gonna rid you of negative attention...a modified one anyway. Thieves tend to target modded Hondas, as do cops. With my Del Sol, I spent a good 20 hours installing a crazy alarm setup, but I still worry about it getting stolen with a tow truck or something everytime I leave it somewhere (like in my locked garage).

As far as negative attention from haters, don't worry about them. Build your car for you. If you're really set on turning heads, the cheaper route is probably a drop, wheels, and sideskirts. The Celica is pretty unique compared to Civics and Integras...especially a modded Celica...and it looks great IMO. I bought a Honda, and I miss having a really nice looking car. Everyone I knew loved my car, and couldn't believe I sold it for a "ugly" and "girly" Del Sol.

Oh and by the way, most Honda swaps aren't really cheap either if you're thinking of buying a Honda and then building it.

yea if i can fix my lifter tick for less than a grand ill keep the celi.

Its got nice curves...

Red, I know what your problem is power-wise. From 94 and earlier, the 7AFE engine had little on it to restrict it's true power which is about 115 hp. However from 95 and later, they dumbed down the 7AFE engine for emissions reasons. Which leaves it around 100 hp or so. Since you have a 95 you will probably feel a little slower than someone with an earlier model. Just some facts for ya.

i think you should do what i am going to do. first just worry about the looks of the car. right now i'm focusing on making my car stand out by it's looks. front lip, spoiler, soon i will add the rear splitters, tint, new rims. than after you have paid off your car (or sooner if you can) take out another loan for a swap. personally i want to stay n/a so i want a 3sge. still has plenty of guts and it's a little less money if you go to the right place. you can get a 5th gen 3sgte for a decent price as well. personally your car stands out more than any civic and honda. the looks of our car is amazing and you don't hardly ever see them.
do what you want but i think that you will be happier with the celi in the long run.

stick with the 6g. i love my car because its more unique than most cars on the road and because its not a tuner car. speed is overrated. i have an auto st too, and im at a mile in elevation. trust me, i wish it was faster, but its not something i cant deal with. i work at a dealership and have driven many different kinds of cars and i can safely say the 6g feels better built and has an interior that is miles ahead (in terms of design and materials) of lots of cars, hell even more expensive, newer ones. i have yet to find a car in the same price range i would trade it for. its made me appreciate my car. not to mention, with wheels and a drop, it will turn heads like no other car in its class. another reason i love the 6g is the gtfour. obviously, we cant get them, but you can make it look like one relatively easily. i mean, you can buy jdms, projectors, gtfour exterior and you have a completely different looking car that people have no idea what it is. most cars dont have that clean OEM option that dramatically changes the look of the car like the 6g does. most have to resort to aftermarket altezza tails and gaudy body kits. not to mention, if you want speed, its just a swap away, and there are many engines that work.

This post has been edited by celicaST: Jul 18, 2007 - 10:57 PM

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sounds like you're wanting to get rid of it for all the wrong reasons. other people dont think its cool...so you wanna get rid of it????PLEASE, seriously, there is more out there than what the other people at your HIGH SCHOOL think. you say they don;t research anything and yet you want to impress them......get some new friends and stay with the celica for a DD, if you want power get an old chevy v8 muscle car, those are CHEAP and easy to find parts for..........seriously, be original, and don't do things because other people think its cool, do it because YOU think it's cool. BUT if you well it and get something else do it because its a better vehicle, not because your buddys want you too. I have a friend with a boosted 240sx that breaks all the time. he wants me to get one when my car has had normal probs with it and i get better milege, and it still turns heads because i dont have big dumb chrome wheels like everyone else in my town

This post has been edited by b1gr3d: Jul 19, 2007 - 6:08 PM

yea im keeping it, just need to fix the lifter tick...

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that's not a problem, is just part of owning a toyota, other cars owner have to put up with car stopping every other week and such, we have to put up with a lifter sound. I can live with that

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Yea thats true lol, but other cars dont let the world know that their engine is ****. My engine sounds like **** buts it not, id kinda like to fix that.

get headers and a exhaust system, that will hide the noise of the lifters and your engine will sound like is high performance ( won't perform like that )

also get a warm air intake, makes a nice sucking sound and will cover the tick a lil, but also if someone knows toyotas they know the tick

ive heard it on a civic before, it sounded just like mine too, does it happen to all cars with overhead adjustable valves?

what tick are you guys talking about? I got alike 100000000000000000 of them....commin out of everywhere (might be a personal problem)

But yea, no matter what kinda car you get for 4k people are gonna be raggin on ya, and you live in NY...state known for their ****TY cab drivers....man, just stick with celli and save up buy new gear...dont worry about the look of it, worry about the brains....I personally dont mind a slow car...i want it to look clean and nice...thats why i spent 200 on new interior parts (used, new for me and not cracked) and it looks 100 times better.... but start slow (unlike me, that started 10 different projects at once) there is no rush...

ive never even been in a cab lol, i live in albany not the big city. NY is a ***tty state for tuning and respectable cars. most cars up here are just rust buckets with snow tires mounted on all the time.

No celicas here either, only one other 6th gen at my school and he went to another state to buy it. Ive never seen one on the road, only one parked at a local golf course once and it was a yellow st that was highly not cared for.

u sure that wasnt a cab?