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presure2
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QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Dec 4, 2007 - 2:26 PM) [snapback]619582[/snapback]
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so how do these performance cams affect driveability?

its drives just like stock. just faster. this is by far the biggest single improvement ive seen on any 5sfe that ive seen, other than turbo, of course.
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Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
Batman722
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QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Dec 4, 2007 - 2:26 PM) [snapback]619582[/snapback]
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so how do these performance cams affect driveability?

its drives just like stock. just faster. this is by far the biggest single improvement ive seen on any 5sfe that ive seen, other than turbo, of course.
wink.gif

agreed. They are awesome.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
frosty
#63
Very nice, I really wish you would have gotten a baseline of your motor, but hey, if I had the new cams laying around I wouldn't have hessitated either biggrin.gif . And using manny's as comparison would be a pretty close accuracy as for the avg. 5s. Very nice.

Not so much of an increase in overall, but GOD at 6krpms! a fattened band of over 20+ hp and torque! No dout this would make for a sweet ride! woot.gif


(and for those interested in these but are concerned with mpg, it would only get lower because you would play more with those higher rpms and have a reason to stomp on the gas pedal! tongue.gif )


Again, very nice biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by frosty: Dec 11, 2007 - 11:12 AM
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yodaman87
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6strings:
yup, ~ 650 for the pair.
in comparison, a set of cams for the 3s goes for just about the same price.
i working with another company to have a set done for the turbo 5s, they should be ~ 200$ cheaper.

the other set you are working on, are they hardwelded like the webcams or reground? I've heard that TED components cams only cost around $200 for both cams, it's a regrind though and you have to use thicker shims.

you need to use larger shims with the webcams as well.
the colt cams are reground, and geoff includes oversized shims.

ive sent my cams out to goeff at colt cams
MyFreeCamry
#65
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ive sent my cams out to goeff at colt cams
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How did your cams turn out from colt, and how much did it cost ya????

Any problems outta the webcams yet????

What this I read about taking one supra cam and machining it to fit on the 5s for an adjustable cam gear????Someone please explain this a little bit more PLEASE.
6strngs
#66
any news on the colt cams for 5sfte's?
94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
bccentaur3
#67
X2, you guys never got back to us about the cams from Colt.
98 Celica gt red- totaled deer94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)94 Celica gt white (sold)In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
presure2
#68
sorry guys, i havent had the cash for them.

we know for a fact that they WILL be an improvment over the stockers, just a matter of how much and where.
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
6strngs
#69
I just looked at web cams site, they now list 7 different grinds for the 5sfe! at the bottom of the page it says it was last updated april 1st, so I know this is new. what would be optimum for the turbo 5s? I know it needs more top end, and I'd be willing to sacrifice a little low end for it, but nothing too aggressive. I understand what the numbers mean, but I don't really understand how they affect the powerband in what ways.
94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
bccentaur3
#70
I just feel that if you don't intend on upgrading your internals the 294 regrinds would be fine. btw Dustin or Manny, with the regrinds installed is does the car idle a little rough? Like a bit more agrressive in the sound?

O yeah, let us know about the group buy please. biggrin.gif
98 Celica gt red- totaled deer94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)94 Celica gt white (sold)In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
6G96GT
#71
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ive sent my cams out to goeff at colt cams
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What are you paying from colt cams to regrind your cams and to what? 294? 264? Do you have to get any Head work or upgrade the internals?
presure2
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I just feel that if you don't intend on upgrading your internals the 294 regrinds would be fine. btw Dustin or Manny, with the regrinds installed is does the car idle a little rough? Like a bit more agrressive in the sound?

O yeah, let us know about the group buy please. biggrin.gif

i didnt notice much of a diffrence at all at idle, although d could answer better, he drives the car every day..lol
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bccentaur3
#73
Hey Dustin get back to us on how the car idles.
98 Celica gt red- totaled deer94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)94 Celica gt white (sold)In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
Batman722
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QUOTE(frosty @ Dec 11, 2007 - 12:11 PM) [snapback]621726[/snapback]
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Very nice, I really wish you would have gotten a baseline of your motor, but hey, if I had the new cams laying around I wouldn't have hessitated either biggrin.gif . And using manny's as comparison would be a pretty close accuracy as for the avg. 5s. Very nice.

Not so much of an increase in overall, but GOD at 6krpms! a fattened band of over 20+ hp and torque! No dout this would make for a sweet ride! woot.gif

thanks frosty
I wish I did get to the dyno before the instal but time and $ were an issue then.
being able to spin the wheels at 5K rpms is nice wink.gif

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I just feel that if you don't intend on upgrading your internals the 294 regrinds would be fine. btw Dustin or Manny, with the regrinds installed is does the car idle a little rough? Like a bit more agrressive in the sound?

the car idles fine, no issues. I did have to replace my 13 year old 02 sensor after the install. With my wideband I noticed m 02 wasn't responding as quickly as it was before the install, so that was a quick fix.

the other talk about a rough idle is due to the different cams (grinds). There are more agrressive grinds that would give you even more top end power/torque and you lose a lot down low as a result. Those would give a rough idle and their really not made for a daily driver.

once again, my idle is perfect, no issues smile.gif
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
darthripley
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QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ Apr 2, 2008 - 10:35 AM) [snapback]660827[/snapback]
>O yeah, let us know about the group buy please. biggrin.gif


i'm also interested in the group buy for my 5sfe camry.
i just need to hit up some junkyards to get an extra set of cams that can be sent in.
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Euphoria
#76
god I'd love to have this done but how could I get it done when I'm in Australia?
RavenAegis45
#77
they definitely look pretty nice. but I hear altering the cams on 5S-FE's hurts the low end and requires a re-mapping of the ECU?
CelicaGTS94
#78
ok so what all is needed to get these cams up and running, did you replace anything that is needed in the head to acommodate these cams? lifters? valves? ect? I have looked into Webcams and almost ordered a set, but want o know more about what is needed to get the best result and make the car still be reliable.

This post has been edited by CelicaGTS94: Sep 19, 2008 - 9:47 AM
Kwanza26
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QUOTE (RavenAegis45 @ Sep 11, 2008 - 6:51 AM) *
>they definitely look pretty nice. but I hear altering the cams on 5S-FE's hurts the low end and requires a re-mapping of the ECU?

Depends on the cams... these won't affect low-end that much... and even if they did... I would trade low-end torque for some more mid-high-range power.
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Kwanza26
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QUOTE (CelicaGTS94 @ Sep 19, 2008 - 3:47 PM) *
>ok so what all is needed to get these cams up and running, did you replace anything that is needed in the head to acommodate these cams? lifters? valves? ect? I have looked into Webcams and almost ordered a set, but want o know more about what is needed to get the best result and make the car still be reliable.

No. You replace the cams, and the gaskets/seals and such since you're already in there. These cams are not big enough to require a change in lifters. Sometimes the cams do cause the lifters to tick, but whether or not you want to fix that is a matter of taste. Again, the cams aren't big enough to cause a major annoyance. Valves would fall under a performance mod and be much more expensive to do... so no... they're not really related to this modification.
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presure2
#81
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QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Dec 4, 2007 - 2:26 PM) [snapback]619582[/snapback]
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so how do these performance cams affect driveability?

its drives just like stock. just faster. this is by far the biggest single improvement ive seen on any 5sfe that ive seen, other than turbo, of course.
wink.gif
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
Batman722
#82
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 4, 2007 - 4:45 PM) [snapback]619636[/snapback]
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QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Dec 4, 2007 - 2:26 PM) [snapback]619582[/snapback]
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so how do these performance cams affect driveability?

its drives just like stock. just faster. this is by far the biggest single improvement ive seen on any 5sfe that ive seen, other than turbo, of course.
wink.gif

agreed. They are awesome.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
frosty
#83
Very nice, I really wish you would have gotten a baseline of your motor, but hey, if I had the new cams laying around I wouldn't have hessitated either biggrin.gif . And using manny's as comparison would be a pretty close accuracy as for the avg. 5s. Very nice.

Not so much of an increase in overall, but GOD at 6krpms! a fattened band of over 20+ hp and torque! No dout this would make for a sweet ride! woot.gif


(and for those interested in these but are concerned with mpg, it would only get lower because you would play more with those higher rpms and have a reason to stomp on the gas pedal! tongue.gif )


Again, very nice biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by frosty: Dec 11, 2007 - 11:12 AM
CLOSED on 25 acres!-shop coming soon....
yodaman87
#84
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 4, 2007 - 6:18 AM) [snapback]619498[/snapback]
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QUOTE(6strngs @ Dec 4, 2007 - 1:32 AM) [snapback]619455[/snapback]
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 3, 2007 - 9:10 AM) [snapback]619228[/snapback]
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6strings:
yup, ~ 650 for the pair.
in comparison, a set of cams for the 3s goes for just about the same price.
i working with another company to have a set done for the turbo 5s, they should be ~ 200$ cheaper.

the other set you are working on, are they hardwelded like the webcams or reground? I've heard that TED components cams only cost around $200 for both cams, it's a regrind though and you have to use thicker shims.

you need to use larger shims with the webcams as well.
the colt cams are reground, and geoff includes oversized shims.

ive sent my cams out to goeff at colt cams
MyFreeCamry
#85
[/quote]
ive sent my cams out to goeff at colt cams
[/quote]

How did your cams turn out from colt, and how much did it cost ya????

Any problems outta the webcams yet????

What this I read about taking one supra cam and machining it to fit on the 5s for an adjustable cam gear????Someone please explain this a little bit more PLEASE.
6strngs
#86
any news on the colt cams for 5sfte's?
94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
bccentaur3
#87
X2, you guys never got back to us about the cams from Colt.
98 Celica gt red- totaled deer94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)94 Celica gt white (sold)In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
presure2
#88
sorry guys, i havent had the cash for them.

we know for a fact that they WILL be an improvment over the stockers, just a matter of how much and where.
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
6strngs
#89
I just looked at web cams site, they now list 7 different grinds for the 5sfe! at the bottom of the page it says it was last updated april 1st, so I know this is new. what would be optimum for the turbo 5s? I know it needs more top end, and I'd be willing to sacrifice a little low end for it, but nothing too aggressive. I understand what the numbers mean, but I don't really understand how they affect the powerband in what ways.
94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
bccentaur3
#90
I just feel that if you don't intend on upgrading your internals the 294 regrinds would be fine. btw Dustin or Manny, with the regrinds installed is does the car idle a little rough? Like a bit more agrressive in the sound?

O yeah, let us know about the group buy please. biggrin.gif
98 Celica gt red- totaled deer94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)94 Celica gt white (sold)In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
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