ok guys... it's time for me to do the engine swap... so i am wondering ... how easy is it? this include having the a/c p/s and almost everything else installed in. is the wiring easy? etc etc. I want a st205 if possible. well any advice you can give? thanks

pay someone 5 grand and wallah a week later you have a 3s-gte in your car! YIPPY! If you need advice on writing checks I could help further >>

Basicaly find a place to get your half clip, then find a place to do the labor (somewhere experienced in swapping engines from RHD to LHD, jdm to usdm) Your clip should run you about 3-4k and labor will be around $1500-2000.

-Chrobis+Aug 12, 2003 - 10:46 PM

Check out Celica.net. In the Forced Induction and the 6th generation forums. There is tons of info over there.

You could shell out 5000 and get it done for you, but you gotta weigh whats more important. Yeah you want a hella fast car pretty quickly (that is if u can find a shop who knows how to do the swap) or do you want the know how, the pride of doing it urself. Also price, i did mine for 3000 and i did it mainly because i didnt have all that money and i wanted to do it myself. Easy it is not, but i dont regret doing it.

By the way, how is yours coming along, Super?

-Supersprynt+Aug 13, 2003 - 4:32 PM

i know about the labor and stuff but i am asking if it is easy to swap the engine in yourself. aside from saving money , you get a lot of experience of the swap. so when something does go wrong along the road, you know how to look for and maybe even how to fix it. but if it require a lot of experience i might hand it to a shop to do it.

Droping in the engine shouldn't be all that hard, the nuts and bolts part... The hard part is all the wiring and electronics part, ever see supersprynts interior picture of all those colorful wires, sprynt post that up again if you could... I think it was super, maybe it was stipt.....

"so when something does go wrong along the road, you know how to look for and maybe even how to fix it"

The real problem is when you cant fix it, and no one will touch it when its an engine thats not available in the US and the work was done by an unqualified mechanic. It took me a week to find one grounding wire in the harness that kept the car from starting.

I did all the work on my car as well, and I am happy with the knowledge I've gained. Before this car, I had never done any major work on a car. But there have been numerous times where I've wished I could just take the car somewhere and find out where my problem was.

The minimun knowledge you need is to be able to read and understand the Toyota Service manuals. I would NOT do a swap without them. For my swap, there is an air temp sensor on the ST185 that requires 12V - the 205 air sensor requires 5V. Image hooking up the ecu and frying it due to too much voltage from a simple air temp sensor (remember - the ecu provides the ground for most of the sensors)!

For a ST202 to ST205 swap, your working with the same model, so things will be failrly straight forward.

Where can I get The service manuals?

Why would u need the whole front clip if u have a gt, this is juss a question because I am not to sure about the subject myself. I thought the engine was supposed to drop right into the engine bay and I heard that u could also use the stock gt tranny.

You can use the GT Trans, you just need to get the correct clutch and flywheel to mate them up.

It's good to get the full clip for all the sensors and components as they will be different then the GT model. I've bought an engine/trans once and was lucky to get the entire wiring harness with all sensors attached, so in that instance I had everything I needed.

You can order the Service Manuals from Toyota. On the All-trac.net site they have a list of the Service Manual part numbers and a phone number you can order it from.

you could do what my dad did with my bros supra! it would have cost my dad about 11,000 dollars to do my bros engine swap but he has spent about 1,100 dollars but it has taken him 2 years to get all the parts and the supras been up on blocks for a year but well worth the time in the end because of the money he hasnt had to spend! awww..i cant wait for the supra to be in my hands! its an 84 but any supra is a beautiful sight when its done nicely...

later
natalie

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