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well , rick ... i still want to ride for sure , but it is pretty hard if i dont have a bike .... and i dont think anybody has spare bikes sitting around to lend

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I think u mentioned it, but u took the class right? I mean if your gonna get a 250cc, i dont see what why parents wont let you get it. Those are pretty safe compared to what (600cc+) most people start with. I mean if its your last option to ride, u may have to save some $$$ and just buy a 250cc for $2000 or less.

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Price isnt the problem , i am actually decided on getting the Gs 500 , its much more comfy than the 250 ( i am 6'3" ) , i took the MSF class , got the license and gear , but now my parents think biking is childish , irresponsible and an overall waste of money , that is ofcourse beside being so unsafe that when you touch the bike , lightning strikes you dead !

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Well maybe u have to sit them down and tell them the truth. Its is very dangerous. But you have a responsible and safe attitude about riding. Tell them u have full knowledge of how dangerous it CAN be if not taken very serious. And let them know they should trust your judgement on the bike. I mean u seem like u have taken all the correct steps to ensure a safe and fun riding experience for a beginner. But just from a money stand point, its saves u money. I mean the right gear is the first big hit u will take as far as $$$ and u already have that. Insurance even for full coverage will be about $100-150 a month depening on you, could be as low as $80 a month, or even $30 for just liability. And gas is cheap, i mean if i go just to work then home, i only use about $10 a week. And u cant put a price on extra time u have living life and not sitting in gridlock. Then there is maintenance, let the dealer do the first one just for warranty issues, then i will teach u how to do the rest, that save your serious $$$ doing it yourself, and its SO easy on a bike, much less work then cars.

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Yes, i know that si what i am supposed to do but they dont take me seriously, they think the protective gear is a joke and that i dont know what i am talking about when i say that the risk can be lowered by taking certain measures , i am looking foreword to the savings , specially that i can get upto 50% discount on insurance with my MSF card and 10% on any purchase ( parts and gears) .... maintenance is tricky , i read in a forum that it is critical because something as simple as setting the cahin ( or something related to it ) can cause real wheel weave which on high speed and under acceleration and cause tank slap and ETC ... so maintenances will be done by professionals for the most part...

Maintenace on a new bike is not hard if u read your owners manual. The chian is not hard to do work on at all, just lube it every 500 miles or so, check your tire pressure b4 u ride. For the most part all the maintenance, is oil changes, checking your cables, checking your chain, sprockets, tires, and brakes. U can do most of it yourself, and honestly when is come to things that important i dont trust anyone be me to make sure they r all ok to ride on. I mean i know most big shops dont check out all they say they do.

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Yes i know , shop mechanic dont do that much work with anything , very careless for the most part. however , it is kind of too early for me to worry about this before i even get a bike .

lol , i think this post should be removed now. I just tried to have a "grown-up" talk with dad and he ended up calling me names and making fun of how serious i was about the whole thing which ofcourse got me angry and we ended up fighting , which leads to him hitting me and telling me i am **** and stuff , and i thought i was actually going to have a nice Christmas break.

hahaha playr yup my friend does have the same bike as you. its red and black. yeah that thing is wide.......but very good driving on it. i learned some basics on that bike.