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Very true. But i suspect it was a rip off, as have most movies have been lately, due to the wonderful writers strike that happened.

This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 29, 2008 - 10:49 AM
Damn - that had to be on purpose right?
IMO they could do worse than to try to copy the original. IDK why they are even redoing this part of the DK series. Batman Begins led perfectly into the original - they just should have left it at tat - how you gonna top JN's Joker performance?
Strange how much the Joker looks like Eric Draven in these trailers - both actors died during the production of the films [albeit under completely different circumstances] - creepy.
I'm finding it hard to get psyched up for this one with IronMan looking so damn cool [just read the book - damn. I know Peter David wrote it but if the movies half as good...]

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Maybe it was purposefully done, as an homage.

>>Batman Begins was NOT a prequel!>>

It has nothing to do with the first 4, I don't understand that after so many years people are still not getting it.

AND the new Incredible Hulk is not a sequel!

BTW: (Edit 3) the new trailer will officially be released sunday, but it's on SHH! right now if you look.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Apr 29, 2008 - 10:55 AM

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I've already seen pirated sections of the "Dark Knight"
looked pretty good.

the new hulk movie = failure...they just made one like a couple years ago?
^ something tells me you didnt watch the video in the link (erik).

This post has been edited by lagos: Apr 29, 2008 - 10:58 AM

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I watched it. I stand by my statement. It's very similar, but since we don't know the reasoning, it's all assumptions.

Hulk looks fairly cool, mainly because of Ed Norton. The first one came out 5 years ago.

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>>Batman Begins was NOT a prequel!>>
It has nothing to do with the first 4, I don't understand that after so many years people are still not getting it.

Oh I've gotten it since it came out - it's just it worked so well as a prequel and some of us still have much love for [In my case just the first one] the other movies.
Relax tho man - no sense getting your blood pressure up.

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oh, i agree with the crazy man that's screaming... except for being crazy and screaming laugh.gif

Batman Begins had the "joker" slash "man who kills Bruce's parents"(joker) that guy was shot. Were as traditionaly the story goes that that murderer became the joker later.

But i have to wonder why the hell anyone would care about batman anymore? It's been done. And no actor in this world (short of Jim Carey) could EVER stand up to Jack Nicklesons's joker preformance. And I'm not sayin J.C. would do better, but that's the only actor flexable enough to do it. (but there is nothing scary about J.C.) Nickleson really played a villan there, and no amout of special effects will make me forget that...

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(but there is nothing scary about J.C.)

You did see Jim Carey as the riddler right? it worked well enough but was just overshadowed by the rest of that POS movie.

When is this new one coming out finally anyway?

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(but there is nothing scary about J.C.)

You did see Jim Carey as the riddler right? it worked well enough but was just overshadowed by the rest of that POS movie.

When is this new one coming out finally anyway?


Nope, never saw that one...

Common man, you know how much T.V. i watch.

Didnt our favorite politician in cali play Mr. Freeze too? Batman movies are famous for just grabbing the bigest names of actors and letting em parade around. now they wanna go and make it all dramatic~ blah rolleyes.gif

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>Batman Begins had the "joker" slash "man who kills Bruce's parents"(joker) that guy was shot. Were as traditionaly the story goes that that murderer became the joker later.



Actually ... I think in the comic book, his parents were killed by a random criminal and had nothing to do with the joker (like in batman begins).

Jack made for a great joker, but from the trailers Heith did something really special with the role. You really get that psycho maniac lunatic feel that Ive never seen anyone do before.

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oh, i agree with the crazy man that's screaming... except for being crazy and screaming laugh.gif

Batman Begins had the "joker" slash "man who kills Bruce's parents"(joker) that guy was shot. Were as traditionaly the story goes that that murderer became the joker later.

But i have to wonder why the hell anyone would care about batman anymore? It's been done. And no actor in this world (short of Jim Carey) could EVER stand up to Jack Nicklesons's joker preformance. And I'm not sayin J.C. would do better, but that's the only actor flexable enough to do it. (but there is nothing scary about J.C.) Nickleson really played a villan there, and no amout of special effects will make me forget that...

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what does JC have to do with the joker? JC played the Riddler.....The Joker is Heith Ledger.......from what i've seen of Dark Knight HL does a pretty good job.
and like Art said, The Wayne's were killed by a random criminal, not by a larger character.


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what does JC have to do with the joker? JC played the Riddler.....The Joker is Heith Ledger.......from what i've seen of Dark Knight HL does a pretty good job.
and like Art said, The Wayne's were killed by a random criminal, not by a larger character.


guy, you just love to argue with me dont you?

I dont watch TV much. I have a life. Did you not just read the thread where i stated i never seen that one? I never see alot of movies in their entirety.

And as for movies i have seen, i have seen the first one. i watched the cartoons with the kids, it's always been the damn joker.

Hollywood destroying a perfectly good story; it's not new. And I still dont like it. But if you wanna claim that the newest sh!t stain to hit the TP is the way it has to be, then good for you. Personally i really don't care enough about batman to continue this with you.

Go watch the first one. Figure it out. If ya want, i got it on VHS; unless VHS never existed in your eyes and it's been blu-ray and dvd since you were born, just because those are the newest sh!ts to hit the TP right? laugh.gif

And another thing, The hulk is gay. He's a big green man running arround san francysco in purple capri' pants screaming "dont make me angry"

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^did you even see batman begins?

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...but from the trailers Heith did something really special with the role. You really get that psycho maniac lunatic feel that Ive never seen anyone do before.

x2 I hope this is as dark as the Dark Knight series deserves.
Maybe two good comic movies this year? Wow - who'd a thought?

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guy, you just love to argue with me dont you?

I dont watch TV much. I have a life. Did you not just read the thread where i stated i never seen that one? I never see alot of movies in their entirety.

And as for movies i have seen, i have seen the first one. i watched the cartoons with the kids, it's always been the damn joker.

Hollywood destroying a perfectly good story; it's not new. And I still dont like it. But if you wanna claim that the newest sh!t stain to hit the TP is the way it has to be, then good for you. Personally i really don't care enough about batman to continue this with you.

Go watch the first one. Figure it out. If ya want, i got it on VHS; unless VHS never existed in your eyes and it's been blu-ray and dvd since you were born, just because those are the newest sh!ts to hit the TP right? laugh.gif

And another thing, The hulk is gay. He's a big green man running arround san francysco in purple capri' pants screaming "dont make me angry"


no i don't like to argue with you, you just consistently talk out your ass.
the MUGGER who killed the Waynes was NEVER any large character, he was a small time mugger thats IT.
This is dated back to when the COMICS were around in the late 30s early 40s

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and just so you know what the JOKER has done
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I have seen pretty much every batman movie, including the ones before you are born.
Cartoons, blah blah blah....stop trying to argue with people who know more about topics then you..
or do you smash your movies into the sidewalk to check for their validity..

sh!t validity might be too big a word laugh.gif

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do you smash your movies into the sidewalk to check for their validity..


Wait... i gotta admit, that was pretty funny. (mental image of me bashing VHS's into the sidewalk claiming they are unworthy of the VCR that :finally: stood up to the test laugh.gif )

but more importantly guy, I'm not one of the lil' 16, 18, 20 or whatever year old kids with a fresh new car. I've been around for a few minutes.

Why the hell are we arguing about Batman? The "comic universe" is a damn multi-verse, it's not uncommon for the same charters to run thru the same basic story-line with different circumstances.

Agree to Disagree?

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... so i take it you didnt even see batman begins. tongue.gif

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... so i take it you didnt even see batman begins. tongue.gif


yes i have. (well, most of it~)

i've got a small theater in my living room, just always too busy to use it rolleyes.gif

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He has been responsible for numerous tragedies in Batman's life...the murders of Jason Todd (the second Robin)

I so remember when that came out biggrin.gif as right about the same time as the original movie too.

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Jack was an excellent Joker. By the looks of it, Heath seems to have done something great with the character also. I love the first Batman from 1989, but Batman Begins in no way makes a good prequel, and rightly so, it's not a prequel. It's a reboot of the entire franchise.

After Batman (1989) the franchise went south, real fast. Batman Returns was Ok, until the penguins started shooting rockets. But as soon as they repeated the whole, 2 villains per movie thing, and started lighting Gotham up in neon colors and putting nipples on Batman's suit and destroying the Batmobile every movie it couldn't possibly be taken seriously. It was atrocious. I want to vomit thinking about Batman forever, and Batman & Robin.

Once you guys see the new trailer, heavily laden with Joker, you will be taken back by how great his portrayal seems to be.

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batman still awesome

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After Batman (1989) the franchise went south, real fast. Batman Returns was Ok, until the penguins started shooting rockets. But as soon as they repeated the whole, 2 villains per movie thing, and started lighting Gotham up in neon colors and putting nipples on Batman's suit and destroying the Batmobile every movie it couldn't possibly be taken seriously.


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and the rubber-ducky tank laugh.gif So Hollywood has "rebooted" Batman... without nipples laugh.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif

didn't someone find his cave in one of the last few? and blew up everything except for 1 last magic suit? or was that... oh i dont know frown.gif i havn't watched the last few all the way... just bits and pieces... mostly bits kindasad.gif

But really, what happened to the Cat Woman? i remember she had 2 "lives" when she tongued ol' boy with the taser, why didnt she come back ever?

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Riddler & Two Face found out Bruce Wayne was Batman and destroyed everything.

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Riddler & Two Face found out Bruce Wayne was Batman and destroyed everything.


wait, we've had 2-face already? When did this happen? Who played him?

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the one and only reason the dark night is going to kick major ass: heath ledger (joker) got so involved with his character he had trouble sleeping due to bad thoughts and such. eventually leading to a sleeping pill over-dose. so he died solely because of the sinister role he played. making this movie SUPER BAD ASS. sucks he died though frown.gif

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After Batman (1989) the franchise went south, real fast. Batman Returns was Ok, until the penguins started shooting rockets. But as soon as they repeated the whole, 2 villains per movie thing, and started lighting Gotham up in neon colors and putting nipples on Batman's suit and destroying the Batmobile every movie it couldn't possibly be taken seriously. It was atrocious. I want to vomit thinking about Batman forever, and Batman & Robin.

Totally agree - every word. My brother on the other hand doesn't like the first one and prefers the ones you describe - no accounting for taste [altho his are usually right on IMO].
HL does seem to have doen a great job on the whole insane joker thing - post a link when you get one for the new trailer.

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2 face was tommy lee jones


its a shame heath died, i agree with you erik about the whole batman series

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omg..if you have not even seen the first four original batman movies, do not comment. jesus. its like having to explain calculus to a wall.

first batman = awesome.

2 through 4, ****ing horrible.

batman begins = decent

that trailer comparison is LOL. seriously just going through a movie and matching up parts. its not like its not gonna have explosions, police, the joker doing crazy sh!t, and showing the bat signal. jesus.

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