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njccmd2002
#1
I have searched in the forums to see who has done a beams swap. as there is not much info on this swap

Some people rate it 190 some even 210 hp. I am talking about the red top vvti engine.

Im starting to get info on this. So if anybody can point me to the right post/people. thanks...

I checked dr tweaks website and hes done one, but not much info.

The best is to get a clip, yes but these are hard to come by, so i need to know what is needed..

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azian_advanced
#2
Outsider

puretone

Kev_GT

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azian_advanced
#3
PM me your e-mail and i'll send you the diagrams
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njccmd2002
#4
done thanks.
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njccmd2002
#5
BTW

the ssIII, what is the transmission? same as ours?
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Outsider
#6

I have a 94 GT-S (5S-FE). I had to use the BEAMS motor, my original flywheel and clutch my motor mounts. My original tranny also fit fine. As yet I have no Cat because the BEAMS has it on the end of the header under the drivers seat. I put an adapter pipe in instead. The BEAMS tach is also needed as the engine uses the new style ignition and the signals are different. your old tach will not work with the BEAMS. Wiring is not that bad if you have some previous electrical experience. Just take your time.

This post has been edited by Outsider: May 3, 2008 - 8:16 AM
1994 GT-S (BEAMS) swap complete
njccmd2002
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I have a 94 GT-S (5S-FE). I had to use the BEAMS motor, my original flywheel and clutch my motor mounts. My original tranny also fit fine. As yet I have no Cat because the BEAMS has it on the end of the header under the drivers seat. I put an adapter pipe in instead. The BEAMS tach is also needed as the engine uses the new style ignition and the signals are different. your old tach will not work with the BEAMS. Wiring is not that bad if you have some previous electrical experience. Just take your time.


thanks man, im really going for this swap, the fact is i cant due to money issues.

so far i have recognized i need

engine
ECU
Cluster
Wiring

I can use my own tranny, my mounts.

What about the other little stuff, like ignitors, air intake, fuel pump.

I have researched sometimes the beams does not like a CAI due to the MAF having abnormal signals and running sluggish when the engine is cold.

I am a member of MR2.com since I have seen they are doing this more often. glad to know someone has already done it on a celi.

I am the NEXT FTW......
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sugarfree
#8
The beams tach is required? i thought that was on the 5gens. I thought the 6gen cluster will still work with the correct wiring, well 96 and up.
99Celica
#9
Can a celi be legally registered in Cali with a BEAMS engine?
Rusty
#10
I was thinking about down a beams swap, but more rewarding to work with my 3S-GE Gen3 smile.gif
because $2,300NZD for Beams swap? for just 20kW
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Dr_Tweak
#11
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QUOTE (sugarfree @ May 19, 2008 - 3:09 AM) *
>The beams tach is required? i thought that was on the 5gens. I thought the 6gen cluster will still work with the correct wiring, well 96 and up.


As far as I know you need either a BEAMS tach or a tach adapter box like this one: http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...p;products_id=4

-Doc
-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
njccmd2002
#12
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QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ May 19, 2008 - 2:49 AM) *
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QUOTE (sugarfree @ May 19, 2008 - 3:09 AM) *
>The beams tach is required? i thought that was on the 5gens. I thought the 6gen cluster will still work with the correct wiring, well 96 and up.


As far as I know you need either a BEAMS tach or a tach adapter box like this one: http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...p;products_id=4

-Doc



ill let you do the wiring
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sugarfree
#13
Oh yeah doc is right. At one point i was looking at the MSD one. Ill need to order that and have you send it to me with my harness when your done.
goferris
#14
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 3, 2008 - 6:35 PM) *
>I can use my own tranny,


you would probably be better off finding one that still has the tranny attached. it should still just drop in. if you get one without a tranny it's possible that you could get an automatic ECU that wont work with the manual tranny. is the beams tranny a e153? i've head that it has an LSD

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QUOTE (99Celica @ May 18, 2008 - 9:36 PM) *
>Can a celi be legally registered in Cali with a BEAMS engine?

no. the only swap that you Californians can legally do is if you have a 94-95 GT you can swap in an MR2 (smog legal) 3sgte. the reason being you can only swap a motor that is the same year or newer than your car and have it legal and in cali it has to be a smog legal (or whatever they call it) motor with california emissions regulations.
do people have swaps that aren't legal in cali? of course! they just know people who know people who "overlook" the illegal swap.

This post has been edited by goferris: May 19, 2008 - 12:46 PM
Call me a traitor! See if I care. ;)
99Celica
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QUOTE (goferris @ May 19, 2008 - 1:46 PM) *
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QUOTE (99Celica @ May 18, 2008 - 9:36 PM) *
>Can a celi be legally registered in Cali with a BEAMS engine?

no. the only swap that you Californians can legally do is if you have a 94-95 GT you can swap in an MR2 (smog legal) 3sgte. the reason being you can only swap a motor that is the same year or newer than your car and have it legal and in cali it has to be a smog legal (or whatever they call it) motor with california emissions regulations.
do people have swaps that aren't legal in cali? of course! they just know people who know people who "overlook" the illegal swap.


I c, looks like I need to do some networking wink.gif
njccmd2002
#16
or you can live in another state like mine, and visit california year round.

ayways, yes i know about the ecu, now bout the tranny, would i need to modify my axles? I know a lot of people favor the 3sgte, but i just have fallen in love with the beams...
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sugarfree
#17
The beams tranny is a s54LSD. Same GT axels.

BTW, anyone know what the part numbers for manual engine mounts for a GT?

This post has been edited by sugarfree: May 19, 2008 - 8:42 PM
96ST206
#18
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 19, 2008 - 9:22 PM) *
>or you can live in another state like mine, and visit california year round.

ayways, yes i know about the ecu, now bout the tranny, would i need to modify my axles? I know a lot of people favor the 3sgte, but i just have fallen in love with the beams...


x2 on that! I'm from San Diego CA originally and now stationed in SC I love it no emission laws FTW!! I love the BEAMS engine a guy on ebay named keithtau (rpm garage) has a SSIII gauge cluster for sale white face, 9000rpm tach, but he wants like 250-300 shipped though.
If anyone needs info on the Toyota Curren feel free to PM me!
pasqual
#19
I did this swap to my st202 half year ago .....
I can provide You all info ..what you need


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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 1, 2008 - 9:08 PM) *
>BTW

the ssIII, what is the transmission? same as ours?


S54-06d .... this gearbox is in beams (not all beams have LSD) ..... all S54 gear-box will fit beams ..

I think you have already wiring diagram if not PM me ....

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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 3, 2008 - 7:35 PM) *
>so far i have recognized i need

engine
ECU
Cluster
Wiring

I can use my own tranny, my mounts.

What about the other little stuff, like ignitors, air intake, fuel pump.

I have researched sometimes the beams does not like a CAI due to the MAF having abnormal signals and running sluggish when the engine is cold.


ECU ...there is project on mr2.com - BEAMS .... seams You can use aftermarket ecu for 1zz-fe smile.gif


more info about swap .

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...mp;#entry632592






BEAMS swaped .......
pasqual
#20
Edited: I posted twice smile.gif by mistake ....

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QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ May 19, 2008 - 1:49 AM) *
>As far as I know you need either a BEAMS tach or a tach adapter box like this one: http://www.phoenixtuning.com/zenstore/inde...p;products_id=4

-Doc


Correct ... You need this ... working great ..... thx Dr_Tweak smile.gif

This post has been edited by pasqual: May 24, 2008 - 3:40 AM
BEAMS swaped .......
njccmd2002
#21
cool thanks.
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