okay, these 2 people were talking about burning out and stuff cause they had their so called "american muscle" cars and i said that my car can burn out pretty well but not really good. so one of them gets pissed off! he tells me "you might be able to PEELout but you cant BURNout"...i didnt know there was a difference!

so then he tells me "you cant even talk in conversations like this cause you have a rice burner you f***er." so then, later, they are talking about how many valves they have in their engines and they both say 2 valves per cylinder and i say "i have 4 valves per cylinder so thats like 16 valves." (not trying to act like my car is better or anything) and the guy gets pissed off again! he's all "no you dont! thats bs." anyway, i tell him im positive because it says right on the engine "16 valves".

this just pissed me off very badly. he always talks about how "4 bangers" suck ass. some of them have over 300 hp! plus, he has this crappy $2300 '89 mustang w/a crappy paint job and he thinks his car is sooo much better than mine. he hates all rice burners and i just dont understand how people hate them so much. he knows that i know that his car is faster than mine...but its not slower than **** like he says it is.

thank you for listening to my frustration of these kinds of people. >>

This post has been edited by 6gencelicasrule: Sep 7, 2003 - 7:53 PM

some poeple just think that there cars are the best cars ever made.. but just tell them is your car is the best car ever made they would still make it right..

get yourself some laughing gas and show up those idiots. I can't stand people like that.

laughing gas?

-GT2GT4+Sep 7, 2003 - 8:55 PM

ohhhh


hahaha

ehh my dad is like that, allways talking **** on " rice burners" he doesn't under stand that half of the people on this board could whomp all over his ass in a race.

we constantly argue about why people spend money supping(sp) up a 4cyl
"i dont know why people waste money on those pussy engines" is something he would say, my dad is a very simple minded person. haha >> .

but all in all I think they are just afraid of the rice burner.




-Brandon

Im the same, a friend of mine has a ss camaro and he has put 17k into it and it only runs 14 seconds (no turbo or super, all engine). Im like dude, you give me 17k and i will modify an import that will rape you. But muscle car owners are stuck up on having "all engine". Unfortunetly there are "muscle car owners" and "ricers" and then "us". I know almost everyone on this board would never hate on any other car, not to mention our cars are not "rice burners" There arent many "rice" mods for our cars. And we show respect to other cars, for example the 300zx pic in the off topic, everyone who saw it gave it a huge compliment, if you were to put that pic on a honda or chevy website all you would get is hate. Its pretty much ridiculous.

there are guys like that at my school, except they hate on hondas and foci. i always get asked how fast my car is

the best thing is that out of all the people i hear talking about cars only the people that respect my car for what it is know anything.

i can talk circles even around the auto shop teacher, who i am conviced is only the auto shop teacher because they let him store his boat on campus.

now some of you guys may not like this analogy but i relate the domestic vs import rivalry to racism.

its all learned by kids from their parents that grew up with 300+hp camaros and gutless hondas

fact is i was reading the fourgasm article in C&D. they had a bunch of "ricer burners", made by some fairly decent aftermarket companies out there testing their cars and such to see how they measured up. they had some pretty quick ones, and most were in a pretty decent price range. the most expensive was a cobb tuning WRX which totaled like 84K, the second most expensive was the Comptech S2000 which was like 68K. the comptech finished the competition the fastest, which consisted of a standing 1/4, into a road race section, then onto the oval track where you brought the car to 130 MPH, then once you did that, you got onto the brakes untill the car was at a complete stop. all in one run, testing all aspects of the car. (this was done at CAL speedway.) well after the competition was done, and everyone was packing up, they brought out a bone stock '04 Z06 which i think cost like 58k, which spanked every car in every aspect, and finished the course 1.4 seconds faster than the comptech S2000.

-K2_Celica+Sep 7, 2003 - 10:21 PM

People need to learn to show respect for what other people enjoy. There will always be people who are a$$ holes though. Anyway, people need to quit comparing muscle cars to imports because beside the fact that they are cars they have almost nothing in common. It is like comparing a 737 to an F-18. Anyway, not all guys with muscle cars are jerks. I got a couple buddies that have some sweet Super Sports and Chevelles and they love it when me and some other "four-bangers" come cruisin with them.

-97sccelica+Sep 7, 2003 - 9:06 PM

For the most part. Not many ppl have our cars or even sup it up. Reasons being is that no one knows much about the celica! If you ask a honda tuner about the 6th gen celica they'll respond to the toyota engine and how it is. the car never became popular when it came out because of its brothers/sisters (depends how you look at it) the mr2 and the supra. Both were made to be fast. and if you were lookin to race back in the 90's they were the cars to get from toyota. And the celica apeals more to the ladies til this day!

If toyota wanted to make the celica their top line sportcar then it would have been 2 seater and equipped with the 3s-gte. but then again that sounds like the mr2.

what i find interesting is that they consider their cars to be high performance when anything over 5k rpm would scatter their engine all over the pavement not to mention the super efficient 8 mpg or less that they are getting. Furthermore last time i checked my celi did a bit more than go in a straight line.

-Cody+Sep 8, 2003 - 1:03 AM

It's just those idiotic people that watch fast n the furious too much and buy a honda and say that they race when all it have is an intake that give all other import owners a bad name. People like those that just give us a bad name so people that are into them muscle cars n stuff just generalize us into that same category but they don't know us well enough to know that we're not as stupid as that. Plus, they give us that excues about how we waste so much money to make it as fast as their car. On the other hand, all we do is see them waste money on their old ass "american muscle" just to try to maintain them . I aint hatin on any american cars cus some of them got some major balls but if they gunna lay it on us I might as well turn it around back on them cus it aint liek they're cars are the shiz anyways. All i gotta say is that they should get a clue before they say **** cus for all they know they're will be a "ricer" around that'll set them in their place.

-van95st+Sep 8, 2003 - 2:22 AM

-62ndXAssAssin+Sep 8, 2003 - 3:15 AM

Just like hondas, I dont hate the car, I hate the driver >>

My dad is all into the American Muscle Cars, he's always bought American cars for himself, but he actually likes my Celica.

He's got his 70 Chevelle that is just a beast, and he told me when I was looking for a car that he didn't think I should go with a car like the Celica. I agreed with him at first. However, we stumbled upon one while we were looking and figured we take it for a test drive just to see. Needless to say his opinion and mine changed after that and I ended up buying the car.

I'd be more than happy with either one, but having one of each would be great >>.

The celica is the first car I've boughten on my own, so it will always be more appealing overall >>

i also believe it is the way they were brought up to liking "american muscle." 2 of my good friends own mustangs and love them because both of them had parents who owned classic mustangs, corvettes, etc. both of them think their cars are just superior compared to cars like ours.

I get alot of respect from domestics. The only time I had a hater was when the guy got all pissed because I was talking about how his SHO was way to heavy to contend with my car. He got all pissed and said if I didn't watch my mouth my car would be my coffin. Well, he thought I was the strong silent type, I'm not >> . So, it ended in vilence, the good thing though is that atleast I didn't hurt him too bad but I broke a knuckle in my right hand and it hurt like hell the day after. I still see him at the track but he avoids me. I don't know why, I'm a nice guy most of the time. Oh well.....

J

-Jussimple+Sep 10, 2003 - 7:32 PM

I agree with Jussimple's tactic

most haters out there are just talkers. they cant and wont try to back it up. just talk some i'll knock you out bitch and they will stop.

-van95st+Sep 8, 2003 - 9:22 AM

well u have to remember our cars are reliable, look good, and can get some good power (not great, but good).

and with a good engine swap, anything is possible.

so there is no reason for anyone to dis our cars...or any cars.

-6gencelicasrule+Sep 12, 2003 - 4:11 AM

We are on a Celica site, not a Civic site.

Yeah, I dunno what the point of people going on and on about what car is better get out of it. Its whatever you are happy with, not what makes other people happy. That said, I WILL NEVER EVER buy an american car again in my life after my first car, a 2001 Ford Focus ZX3. That car, hands down, has to win the biggest piece of sh*t award ever. In the 45,000 mi that i had it ( I bought it new ) the emmisions system failed 3 times, the battery exploded, and the transmission failed at 30,000 (auto)! Thats not counting all the "minor" problems like loose mirrors, loose trim, and the CD player never working for more than 30 min. I was at the dealer with somthing under warranty at least every other week. Needless to say I got sick of it and bought a car I have always found to be very very beautiful, my Celica coupe. As much as there are people who swear by domestic cars who talk trash about how our imports are slow and worthless, there will never EVER come the day that you will hear of this guy's chevy or that guy's ford running 100,000 mi without somthing going wrong. I mean come on- most of us on this site have celicas approaching 100,000 or better, all without ANY mechanical problems. Now you go and tell me when is the last time you saw any american car commonly go 100,000 mi with no problems? You dont. It makes me think of my grandpa when his buick died and he got a toyota camry for a loaner. he said that his 1936 pontiac he had way back in the day was a nicer car! OOOOOKKKK! Its attitudes like that I cant stand. So for all the trast talk us import lovers may have to recieve from the ignorant- just smile in your head at the fact that you know you'll never need a tow truck, unlike the unlucky man with the mustang who just blew a head gasket trying to show you what was up...